WHAT DISTANCE DO YOU START TRAINING AT

i fly widowhood and my first toss wud be 20 mile to as they they fly hour morn and nite

Alex wrote:

oldstrain wrote:

2 at 5 mile , 2 at 10 mile , 2 at 2o mile 2 at 35 mile then into 1st race 80 miles

Did you do the same when you started off with them Darren?

yes i did alex with my ybs last year but they were flying around home for 90 minutes non stop and rangeing out of sight and i also made sure it was a clear day and did check the bhw that there was no midweek raceing in my area or on the line of flight from each training point but the last 2 toss,s were in a local training transporter so there was a couple of hundred birds all going in the same direction ,be a bit senseible alex and it will be fine mate

gareth wrote:

i start mine off a mile away i strongly belive the more short ones you do gives the birds convidence and i like to well schooled pigeons.you can always tell people who dont train there birds end up every were

dont you think gareth by the time you start training your youngbirds that they go around 18 -20 mile just raging so why just take them a mile away for the first one dont see the point , and i know you,ll say its getting them used to the basket not the distance , and everyone to there own but i take mine 11 mile and dont have any problems

oldstrain wrote:

Alex wrote:

oldstrain wrote:

2 at 5 mile , 2 at 10 mile , 2 at 2o mile 2 at 35 mile then into 1st race 80 miles

Did you do the same when you started off with them Darren?

yes i did alex with my ybs last year but they were flying around home for 90 minutes non stop and rangeing out of sight and i also made sure it was a clear day and did check the bhw that there was no midweek raceing in my area or on the line of flight from each training point but the last 2 toss,s were in a local training transporter so there was a couple of hundred birds all going in the same direction ,be a bit senseible alex and it will be fine mate

Agree you Darren

gareth wrote:

i start mine off a mile away i strongly belive the more short ones you do gives the birds convidence and i like to well schooled pigeons.you can always tell people who dont train there birds end up every were

Gareth that is spot on with what you are saying

It is all about confidence

ian wrote:

gareth wrote:

i start mine off a mile away i strongly belive the more short ones you do gives the birds convidence and i like to well schooled pigeons.you can always tell people who dont train there birds end up every were

dont you think gareth by the time you start training your youngbirds that they go around 18 -20 mile just raging so why just take them a mile away for the first one dont see the point , and i know you,ll say its getting them used to the basket not the distance , and everyone to there own but i take mine 11 mile and dont have any problems

On there own or with a few old hens???????

on there own

hi ian i totaly agree with you mat but the problem i get is the raptor problem down here is crippling.if i give them plenty of short them build them up.if i get a hammering by the hawk they got plenty of knolegeWe all have 80 plus young birds be lucky if half goes training

gareth wrote:

hi ian i totaly agree with you mat but the problem i get is the raptor problem down here is crippling.if i give them plenty of short them build them up.if i get a hammering by the hawk they got plenty of knolegeWe all have 80 plus young birds be lucky if half goes training

understand were your coming from mate got to be a big pain for you

ah right gareth agree with you mate good luck with them mate didnt realise you had that problem

gareth wrote:

hi ian i totaly agree with you mat but the problem i get is the raptor problem down here is crippling.if i give them plenty of short them build them up.if i get a hammering by the hawk they got plenty of knolegeWe all have 80 plus young birds be lucky if half goes training

yes you boys do have it rough over there the damn things feel sorry for you mate but its comeing to everybody sooner or later if nothing gets done

cheers ian dont mean to moan ha its not just me its every body dam things but we all stick at it

oldstrain wrote:

gareth wrote:

hi ian i totaly agree with you mat but the problem i get is the raptor problem down here is crippling.if i give them plenty of short them build them up.if i get a hammering by the hawk they got plenty of knolegeWe all have 80 plus young birds be lucky if half goes training

yes you boys do have it rough over there the damn things feel sorry for you mate but its comeing to everybody sooner or later if nothing gets done

you boys dont get it easy were you are mind i was at martains the other day chatting about bop and a huge hen perigrine came ova our heads could of hit it with stick

sailsbury plains can be bad but cumbria has the most dense population of peregines in europe and the twats say we aint got a problem

its a pain mate but we still keep going mate.lets hope we get a break soon hey

And they say there isnt a problem with bop

oldstrain wrote:

sailsbury plains can be bad but cumbria has the most dense population of peregines in europe and the twats say we aint got a problem

Salisbury is right on our training route and yes your right, get whacked virtually every time..... even when you get within 10 miles of Salisbury smack

must take the time and lib them in smaller batches, if get smacked then only minimal losses

10 years ago i had some van reets as pets and sent 7 on a training toss to glastonbury i only got 1 back the next morning it was ripped very badly but survived so i feel for you mark its pretty bad down there