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gareth Hatchling
Posts : 209 Join date : 2010-01-03 Age : 41 Location : milford haven pembrokshire
| Subject: widowhood cocks Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:37 pm | |
| hey guys how would you want your cocks to handle like before racing and in genral cheers |
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birdy2011 Oldbird
Posts : 5539 Join date : 2011-01-01 Age : 63
| Subject: Re: widowhood cocks Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:45 pm | |
| they should feel light and blown up m8 eyes bright nice soft feathers |
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peel bros Oldbird
Posts : 13064 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 59 Location : south shields
| Subject: Re: widowhood cocks Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:46 pm | |
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gareth Hatchling
Posts : 209 Join date : 2010-01-03 Age : 41 Location : milford haven pembrokshire
| Subject: Re: widowhood cocks Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:50 pm | |
| great wot would lookn for in the hand keel skin museel
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Don Webb Oldbird
Posts : 14926 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 51 Location : Tipton
| Subject: Re: widowhood cocks Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:52 pm | |
| - birdy2011 wrote:
- they should feel light and blown up m8 eyes bright nice soft feathers
Agree there Graham but for me also solid and round along the keel bone (Well Musceled) |
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birdy2011 Oldbird
Posts : 5539 Join date : 2011-01-01 Age : 63
| Subject: Re: widowhood cocks Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:53 pm | |
| yes don and nice clean flesh |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43288 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: widowhood cocks Wed Apr 13, 2011 11:00 pm | |
| best bird i had felt like a cork, firm and bouyant with soft silky feathers...............ive found birds which handle like this are rare. |
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gareth Hatchling
Posts : 209 Join date : 2010-01-03 Age : 41 Location : milford haven pembrokshire
| Subject: Re: widowhood cocks Tue Apr 26, 2011 9:32 pm | |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43288 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: widowhood cocks Tue Apr 26, 2011 9:46 pm | |
| motivation of some sort might help gareth, i presume you fly widowhood....? what is your pre basket routine.....? do you show the hens or not ? |
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gareth Hatchling
Posts : 209 Join date : 2010-01-03 Age : 41 Location : milford haven pembrokshire
| Subject: Re: widowhood cocks Tue Apr 26, 2011 10:20 pm | |
| yes david i show the only for cople of minuites |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43288 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: widowhood cocks Tue Apr 26, 2011 10:29 pm | |
| ive got a system which says to open the boxes and turn the bowls over, then let the cocks go into the box for about 10 mins and they will start calling to the hen and crouching low in the bowl...........then take the cocks out one by one and basket them, NOT SHOWING THE HENS,
have the hen in the box for when the cocks return.
its all about motivation and trying different things so maybe worth a try.......??? |
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Don Webb Oldbird
Posts : 14926 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 51 Location : Tipton
| Subject: Re: widowhood cocks Wed Apr 27, 2011 12:33 am | |
| Another system is to turn the bowls over just like David then place the cocks in the basket then let the hens into the section let the cocks see the hens on the box then remove them |
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peel bros Oldbird
Posts : 13064 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 59 Location : south shields
| Subject: Re: widowhood cocks Wed Apr 27, 2011 7:27 am | |
| my birds feel the best they have ever done,the feathering is fantastic like silk,their weight is perfect as well .i could,nt ask for more.....i know like someone said the same 2 birds are peaking at the same time,but i am timing others in as well ,but anyway i do,nt want them peeking at the same time do i |
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birdy2011 Oldbird
Posts : 5539 Join date : 2011-01-01 Age : 63
| Subject: Re: widowhood cocks Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:20 am | |
| you want um in top form for the big one next week ray good look to you all sending in the nationals |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43288 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: widowhood cocks Wed Apr 27, 2011 8:08 pm | |
| - peel bros wrote:
- my birds feel the best they have ever done,the feathering is fantastic like silk,their weight is perfect as well .i could,nt ask for more.....i know like someone said the same 2 birds are peaking at the same time,but i am timing others in as well ,but anyway i do,nt want them peeking at the same time do i
ray, could you tell me how much corn you give your widowhood cocks .....? |
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gareth Hatchling
Posts : 209 Join date : 2010-01-03 Age : 41 Location : milford haven pembrokshire
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birdy2011 Oldbird
Posts : 5539 Join date : 2011-01-01 Age : 63
| Subject: Re: widowhood cocks Mon May 02, 2011 8:17 pm | |
| sometimes things work in your favour sometimes they back fire so me ide keep to ya plan for now as there showing some kind of form and its early they seem to be getting the hang of whats required only my opiniun mind |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43288 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: widowhood cocks Mon May 02, 2011 8:17 pm | |
| - DAVID wrote:
- ive got a system which says to open the boxes and turn the bowls over, then let the cocks go into the box for about 10 mins and they will start calling to the hen and crouching low in the bowl...........then take the cocks out one by one and basket them, NOT SHOWING THE HENS,
have the hen in the box for when the cocks return.
its all about motivation and trying different things so maybe worth a try.......??? i would agree with you gareth, remember my post last week.......??? |
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Don Webb Oldbird
Posts : 14926 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 51 Location : Tipton
| Subject: Re: widowhood cocks Mon May 02, 2011 9:44 pm | |
| - gareth wrote:
- well guys cocks are still in the top five im ova the moon gutted ive droped a bird mind but thats racing.im guna try just showing the bowls and not the hens this week wot does every body think
Gareth good cocks know the game they only need to see the bowl and they know there hen will be there on return Just showing the bowl helps keep the cocks carm in the basket and helps keep there mind on the job |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43288 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: widowhood cocks Mon May 02, 2011 9:46 pm | |
| gareth, how old are the cocks...? are they yearlings or are they older birds which have already been on widowhood in the past.....? |
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Rudderfett Youngbird
Posts : 2152 Join date : 2009-09-27 Age : 55 Location : pembrokeshire
| Subject: Re: widowhood cocks Mon May 02, 2011 9:51 pm | |
| I think he has a good mix of yearlings and 2 /3 year olds, mostly yearlings, the birds are coming well his velocity was over 2000ypm this week rockets, he should keep it the same, hes the most consistant flyer in the club so far. although hes desperate for the win been in top 5 every week. |
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gareth Hatchling
Posts : 209 Join date : 2010-01-03 Age : 41 Location : milford haven pembrokshire
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birdy2011 Oldbird
Posts : 5539 Join date : 2011-01-01 Age : 63
| Subject: Re: widowhood cocks Mon May 02, 2011 10:13 pm | |
| yes it comes to them who wait be patiant stick to your plan it will all fall into place m8 best of look this week |
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littlehen Hatchling
Posts : 558 Join date : 2009-04-22
| Subject: Re: widowhood cocks Mon May 02, 2011 10:43 pm | |
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gareth Hatchling
Posts : 209 Join date : 2010-01-03 Age : 41 Location : milford haven pembrokshire
| Subject: Re: widowhood cocks Mon May 02, 2011 11:05 pm | |
| you cant make any thing quiker as ive learned.im only seconds behind the winner wich is 5 miles shorter than me.im not guna grumble at the performance so far just guna keep at it |
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