Fancier or Pigeon

You lads gave me the title for this one, you touched on it on another topic so thought we should give it , its own
Ken

friendsloft wrote:

You lads gave me the title for this one, you touched on it on another topic so thought we should give it , its own
Ken

nice one ken......i think its both, its no good having great birds if the fanciers management is rubbish, i think i would put it as 50% fancier and 50% birds.

both,you have got to have good birds and put a lot into them to bring out the best in them.once you have done your bit the basket will do the rest

David think about this one an average pigeon in a good fancires hand would he turn this pigeon into a good one , or if a good pigeon went into an average fancier hands would that bird make him/her into a good winning fancier so is it 50/50
Ken

sorry to jump in ken i know a average fancier who got really good pigeons and was getting excellent results and i mean excellent,now after a couple of years he is starting to die off,still ok but not as good and i bet next season he not as good again

friendsloft wrote:

David think about this one an average pigeon in a good fancires hand would he turn this pigeon into a good one , or if a good pigeon went into an average fancier hands would that bird make him/her into a good winning fancier so is it 50/50
Ken

ken, i would say the avarage pigeon in a good fanciers hands would reach its full potential but it would never make the pigeon any better than it could possibly be.....the good fancier couldnt make a pigeon what it isnt........

the good pigeon in an average fanciers hands would/could possibly still race well, but.....never achieve its full potential which it would have done had it been in the hands of a good fancier. plus ad ray says good birds in the hands of an average fancier may do reasonable for a season or two but will go down hill as the fancier doesnt have the skill or knowleage to breed correctly and manage them correctly.

ken, yes if the fancier is doing his job and the pigeons are doing their job and getting results they are working as a team, so therefor yes i would say its 50/50......

Hi Ray yes i would agree in what ur saying, so on this occasion the good birds were the winning formula and not the fancier
Ken

all about team work

going to have to throw my cap in the ring with this one,

i would say:-
50% pigeon
20% fancier

and without the following extra's you will always be firing at 70% of your capabililty?
10% feed
10% Health
10% motivation

thinking about my 50/50 re fancier or birds......i think ill alter it to 45/45 with 10% luck......

just altered mine slightly.......

if someone hasnt the knowlage to bring out the best in a pigeon the birds full potential ,no matter how good will never be achieved.......anything is worthless in the hands of a fool.
if you gave someone the fastest most expensive car in the world, what good would it be to them if they couldnt drive it.......?

also, it could work the other way round......you cant expect a brain surgen to work miricles with a desert spoon. so there you go, it has to be equal..... bird and man, a partnership.

like it David,