chichester peregrines

Unfortunately true in a sense Old strain , there already a cull on by the sounds of some on here and its not legal .
Anyway ive said my bit im going to do my best not to post on this thread anymore but one thing i will say is Goshawks are of no threat to your racing pigeons , people often think theyve seen one and its a sparrowhawk. Yes Goshawks kill pigeons but only wood pigeons , they are incredibly nervous creatures(trust me ive trained them) they dont attack in the open air , they stick to woodland , pigeons will out fly them in direct flight , these are rare birds and deserve protection more than most .

sorry to say rob but the rspb seem to have lost the plot in their pro raptor campaign so you can blame them for any wrong doing to any falcons or hawks the blame will come home to roost one day for sure the last chairman was pro raptor and so is this one

penny pigeon, youve just admitted the sparrow hawk is more dangerous to racing pigeons, now if you were a racing fancier who exercised his/her birds around home and every time they were out they were attacked by a sparrow hawk, how would you feel.....?

also if you were training your birds and you liberated them out of the basket, only for them to be chased by bops, flying in all directions hitting buildings and trees etc in shere panic, how would you feel.....?

until you have experienced this dont automatically label pigeon fanciers evil wrong doers, we are anly trying to protect our pets the only way we can, because no one else gives a damn.....

David wrote:

penny pigeon, youve just admitted the sparrow hawk is more dangerous to racing pigeons, now if you were a racing fancier who exercised his/her birds around home and every time they were out they were attacked by a sparrow hawk, how would you feel.....?

also if you were training your birds and you liberated them out of the basket, only for them to be chased by bops, flying in all directions hitting buildings and trees etc in shere panic, how would you feel.....?

until you have experienced this dont automatically label pigeon fanciers evil wrong doers, we are anly trying to protect our pets the only way we can, because no one else gives a damn.....

exactly david who can blame people for taking the law into their own hands

iv been flying hawks for the past 6 or 7 years i can tell you the sparrow hawk is a killer of pigeons manly the females but the males take pigeons as well

It's funny, in the summer, the females have a bluish tinge, It's just too damn easy to get them mixed up with a Gosshawk. Do we have the European variety over here.
I found this also. From 2009
http://www.birding.uk.com/forum/garden-birds/363-gosshawk-garden-stafford.html

interesting site gary, will have a more in depth browse through this later.........

this year we have had seen a hen sparrow hawk go up and down on it looked like it was just keeping the same root.
we have all lost bird;s to it.
one day i was just going to let the young bird;s out at there same time 1 oclock.
i could not beleave it. out of no where it landed on top of the young bird loft.
i was amazed at the size of it.
that day the bird;s never got out.

falconers loose biirds all the time some dont put telematry on them so there not always found and they no how to hunt as we fly them after pray im seen picture of harris hawks loose and iv been told that they are breeding in this country same as goshawks
if you let your birds out same time every day the hawks will know and wait around for a meal it shouldnt be so bad when hens on nest the male hunts more then

Pigeon Penney wrote:

Unfortunately true in a sense Old strain , there already a cull on by the sounds of some on here and its not legal .
Anyway ive said my bit im going to do my best not to post on this thread anymore but one thing i will say is Goshawks are of no threat to your racing pigeons , people often think theyve seen one and its a sparrowhawk. Yes Goshawks kill pigeons but only wood pigeons , they are incredibly nervous creatures(trust me ive trained them) they dont attack in the open air , they stick to woodland , pigeons will out fly them in direct flight , these are rare birds and deserve protection more than most .

you know it so do i goshawks are just has bigger killers of racing pigeons as other bops i watched them on the webcams feeding there young on racing pigeons so no not just wood pigeons.the webcams are a good thing it shows bop lovers them but all so pigeon people the number of racing pigeons that get killed for them to feed there youngsters on.that with out the ones they kill for them selfs to feed on.so what crap you going to come back with now they were most prob feral ones.

hawks take manly from the ground falcons take things in the air

pmsl good one

pmsl

evs wrote:

iv been flying hawks for the past 6 or 7 years i can tell you the sparrow hawk is a killer of pigeons manly the females but the males take pigeons as well

A male Sparrowhawk would struggle to hold onto a blackbird so a pigeon is no chancer . As for your comments of fALCONERS releasing Goshawks accidently into the wild its true but i dont get your point as they are indigenous , as for harris hawks they are not so by all means if you see a wild one it is a non indigenous species do what you will as long as your sure its a wild one i dont think theyre are any laws on it but if you really think a musket (male spar) will take a pigeon then your the dumbest falconer ever


To someone else who posted re Goshawks they will and do catch pigeons but the ammount they catch would be minimal as , said before in direct flight a pigeon beats a Gos on Speed !!

Gary Burgess wrote:

Thats actually pretty funny

They can attack through a pigeon flock a flat out race is not involved in an ambush.

Pigeon Penney wrote:

Gary Burgess wrote:

Thats actually pretty funny

whys this actually pretty funny p/p....? getting rattled by the looks of your posts arnt you........

I havnt had one yet but hawks go in our lofts here. I had was on the landing board one afternoon, then again the next morning. I figured he was starving and put him out of his misery

look rob you been rumbled with yer bullshit no one believes yer spill so why not put a sock in it as you have cotradicted yourself many times already

thats the beuty of being able to carry a fire arm eh chad..............

only part of it david, the best is deterring thieves.

I breed fast birds, but when I do lose a good one to a hawk, I look for people like you to vent on. Sorry but its gone on long enough
I tried to lighten the whole post, but now your just pissin me off.

dont let these rspb followers get to you gary, at the end of the day it only takes a click of the mouse and he is gone...............

learn from how this man thinks, and it may be of benefit in future..........

yes david nothing but a sly sneaky rapacious charachter just like bop itself