Floor covering...?

i put a sprinkle of kiln dried sand down where the droppings drop keeps it dry
and brushes up a bag lasts me about a month just over £3 a bag .

[quote="timmy"]hi can any 1 tell me wats the best thing to put on loft floor when breeding...
and wats the best thing to stop watery droppings..[/quote.

easy bed for us,it gives us more time with our birds ,ie to observe them and so on ...we leave it in all season.plus you look at the droppings on the box not the floor

[quote="peel bros"]

timmy wrote:

hi can any 1 tell me wats the best thing to put on loft floor when breeding...
and wats the best thing to stop watery droppings..[/quote.

easy bed for us,it gives us more time with our birds ,ie to observe them and so on ...we leave it in all season.plus you look at the droppings on the box not the floor

[quote="oldstrain"]

peel bros wrote:

timmy wrote:

hi can any 1 tell me wats the best thing to put on loft floor when breeding...
and wats the best thing to stop watery droppings..[/quote.

easy bed for us,it gives us more time with our birds ,ie to observe them and so on ...we leave it in all season.plus you look at the droppings on the box not the floor

i use horse bedding through the winter but during race season its taken out as you can seen the dropping on bare floors better, than in easy bed horse bedding also you can also you can trail worm eggs from loft to loft on your feet,, if you have bare floors and clean out daily and spray floors with vanodine this limits the infestation , only my view , i think people who have deep litter all year in the race lofts are just lazy and cant be bothered with a full clean out . each to there own ,

[quote="oldstrain"]

peel bros wrote:

timmy wrote:

hi can any 1 tell me wats the best thing to put on loft floor when breeding...
and wats the best thing to stop watery droppings..[/quote.

easy bed for us,it gives us more time with our birds ,ie to observe them and so on ...we leave it in all season.plus you look at the droppings on the box not the floor

i use horse bedding through the winter but during race season its taken out as you can seen the dropping on bare floors better, than in easy bed horse bedding also you can also you can trail worm eggs from loft to loft on your feet,, if you have bare floors and clean out daily and spray floors with vanodine this limits the infestation , only my view , i think people who have deep litter all year in the race lofts are just lazy and cant be bothered with a full clean out . each to there own ,

I only ever have used any sort of horse bedding on the floor, just to give it a try. I would never ever use it again or anything else for that matter. I lost all of my first round down to salmonella. I would never use anything containing lime as there are some nasties tha like alkaline environments. For me it would have to be clean floors and any bedding would be in the nestboxes. Once the yougbirds have been weaned, I put them in a sperate section on soft hay, but check it first to make sure its not dusty or smells mouldy.

yes you are right its a haven for samonella i dont use it through the race season but when ido use it a i spray it with vanodine

nothing wrong with using lime as long as you brush it up i don,t think your yb would
have died as a result of lime as it kills germs and drys all the damp patches up probably another
underlying problem , also they use lime to cure ybs put some lime in a bucket and fill it with water
when its settled over night tip the water in to a drinker ive never used it but i know a lot who do

wont use lime kev burns you nose and throte so imagine what it does to the birds

have used loft white tho

ive used lime for years but only a bit on the floor then brush it up
yes i agree about the smell but my lofts are well ventilated and i only do it when the birds are out
so it give it time for any dust particals to fall .

fair do kev

i have to say i have never had a problem with the horse bedding but i do change it every 2 months and always take a bundle from the centre of the pallet

my grandad used to put builders lime in a bucket of hot water let it cool and scoop the scum off the top and give the water to the birds

never heard of that steve, must be an old method eh......

think so, just a few spoon fulls in the water

EssexSteve wrote:

my grandad used to put builders lime in a bucket of hot water let it cool and scoop the scum off the top and give the water to the birds

i have read this a few times steve .....was done alot years ago

Never heard of that Steve new to me mate

if i remember correctly don they used to add a cup full to a drinker of fresh water to clear the birds out

Hi Darren

I know about the chalk the Janssen brothers used in the well which was situated in the back yard, plus Bicarbanate of soda or Andrews on a return fromma race to help clean them out

So the lime is new to me mate shall have to keep this in mind

none of the fancy potions and treatments around in them days were there, big money nowadays arnt they, fanciers will have forgotten things like this now.......

Don Webb wrote:

Hi Darren

I know about the chalk the Janssen brothers used in the well which was situated in the back yard, plus Bicarbanate of soda or Andrews on a return fromma race to help clean them out

So the lime is new to me mate shall have to keep this in mind

to be honest don i would rather use the the bicarb or epsom salts as i would be a bit paranoid about using lime lol so dont think i would ever use the method as we know lime burns .....i got some nasty scars on my ankles from my concreteing days them irish lads stop for nothing lol

oldstrain wrote:

Don Webb wrote:

Hi Darren

I know about the chalk the Janssen brothers used in the well which was situated in the back yard, plus Bicarbanate of soda or Andrews on a return fromma race to help clean them out

So the lime is new to me mate shall have to keep this in mind

to be honest don i would rather use the the bicarb or epsom salts as i would be a bit paranoid about using lime lol so dont think i would ever use the method as we know lime burns .....i got some nasty scars on my ankles from my concreteing days them irish lads stop for nothing lol

Same here mate with my suttering days laying concrete loads of scares from lime burns

One thing you forgot to say the irish always left a bit for the next day to come back to

If you look at the small is beautiful pigeon films there was one done on Henry Gonzales of Bristol and Billy O'Neil of Dudley Port

Billy was a all time great pigeon fancier and loved the distance and he always used epsom salts on there return back from a race

I was Billy's apprentice until my dad messed everything up and got rid of my mom for his daughter who also hated me and she is the reason why me and my dad don't have anything to do with one another anymore

i had that video, ive just given it to my mate as i dont have a video player anymore, I have epsom salts because of that video, i think both those flyers were so down to earth not like some of the videos.