3 Bird rule

In our club we have a 3 bird rule meaning you can only clock 3 birds in the club, as many as you like in fed combine etc.
we beleive there are only 4 cards so why are you clocking 50 birds, 46 dont get anything and all you are doing is pushing people further down the list, if you have 50 birds home great we will all know about it because we will be told while opening clocks.
What does the forum think about mass clocking or having clock limits??

it dosent bother me but at the end of the day if all birds clocked are counted its a true result

so if i was third and i knew someone had more in that club before me i wouldnt count it as a third because ide know it was beat

and you would then be further down the fed sheet

yeah i understand that, it dont bother me to much as im not up the top anyhow, i just think why would someone clock 50 birds (a number i picked out of the air) when he knows he has already got enough clocked to win the cards

This caused my biggest headache in clubs, especially when flying against mob flyers. They would have seven or eight on the sheet with the old birds, so when I started to winning with the young birds, obviously I wanted the same, but they then started kicking off, because my birds were there every week, If i wasn't 1st I would take at least 6 or 7 places in the top 10.
My argument was if you were only allowed to clock three birds, then they should limit the entries to 3 birds.
This is a way of making crap birds look good on the sheet, because normally they wouldn't be on the sheet.
This is the reason I cherished my fed and combine results as they were true results and not a manipulated ones like the club sheets.

Gaz b wrote:

This caused my biggest headache in clubs, especially when flying against mob flyers. They would have seven or eight on the sheet with the old birds, so when I started to winning with the young birds, obviously I wanted the same, but they then started kicking off, because my birds were there every week, If i wasn't 1st I would take at least 6 or 7 places in the top 10.
My argument was if you were only allowed to clock three birds, then they should limit the entries to 3 birds.
This is a way of making crap birds look good on the sheet, because normally they wouldn't be on the sheet.
This is the reason I cherished my fed and combine results as they were true results and not a manipulated ones like the club sheets.

I will second that Gary

Gaz i agree with that if they can do it with OBs then same must apply with YBs, im wont mention names but we have flyers in our club that empty their lofts every week, and others that pick out 4 or 5, now my grandad used to call the mob flyers "the prize Money" so i asked why.
His answer was if he knew his birds why would he pay to put 50 in the race if he knew that only 6 of them had a chance of winning.
Age old question whos the better bird man the big flyer or the 6 bird man ?

Who is the more skillful the man that fires a single arrow onto a target or the man who uses a blunderbus ?

EssexSteve wrote:

In our club we have a 3 bird rule meaning you can only clock 3 birds in the club, as many as you like in fed combine etc.
we beleive there are only 4 cards so why are you clocking 50 birds, 46 dont get anything and all you are doing is pushing people further down the list, if you have 50 birds home great we will all know about it because we will be told while opening clocks.
What does the forum think about mass clocking or having clock limits??

This is to make fanciers look brilliant with loads of birds on the sheet at the end of the year the have an advertisement stating first 50 in the club and fed it's all about money mate 0

If my club had 3 birds rule then i would only have 3 birds read off mate no good having the rest read of

I have known fanciers doing this and after a few season have no one to race against in the club due to the club members flying in another club

EssexSteve wrote:

Gaz i agree with that if they can do it with OBs then same must apply with YBs, im wont mention names but we have flyers in our club that empty their lofts every week, and others that pick out 4 or 5, now my grandad used to call the mob flyers "the prize Money" so i asked why.
His answer was if he knew his birds why would he pay to put 50 in the race if he knew that only 6 of them had a chance of winning.
Age old question whos the better bird man the big flyer or the 6 bird man ?

Who is the more skillful the man that fires a single arrow onto a target or the man who uses a blunderbus ?

Gary that was the same over 20 years ago in my club had a fancier send 35 pigeons and only pool the one up i saw his sheet and asked him why he did that and his answer was because that was the pigeon he kept timing in and my answer was best just send that one cheap racing if the others were no good the following week he came with a single bird box with that pigeon in and said your right Don why waste money on no hopers

nail on the head i think Don, to sell pigeons, on ets it clocks automatically but we only read 3 for club results, also it encourages people to try racing, no body wants to be 250th on the sheet every week, i know that personally

That is the problem with having ETS if you had to clock in 50 pigeons after 10 90% of the fanciers would say thats enough

Were with ETS you am not doing the work the ETS is

i bought ETS for this season, my mate who dont race was at mine for the 1st race, he said why do you keep going to the loft after every bird, i told him to see which bird it was,why did you buy ETS then you could just clock it.
told him so i can race while im at work and not miss half the season all the time

It's true mate, but this is when all the skulduggery starts.
I used to have certain pigeons, fanciers at the club used to ask if i was sending them, they even knew their ring numbers, if I said yes, half the baskets went back in their car, this was what started me to send in two clubs just to stop the crap.
If I had ETS back then they would have been crying.

EssexSteve wrote:

i bought ETS for this season, my mate who dont race was at mine for the 1st race, he said why do you keep going to the loft after every bird, i told him to see which bird it was,why did you buy ETS then you could just clock it.
told him so i can race while im at work and not miss half the season all the time

There are plus and minases with ETS mate but its the ones wh take the mick if you know what i mean

Gaz b wrote:

It's true mate, but this is when all the skulduggery starts.
I used to have certain pigeons, fanciers at the club used to ask if i was sending them, they even knew their ring numbers, if I said yes, half the baskets went back in their car, this was what started me to send in two clubs just to stop the crap.
If I had ETS back then they would have been crying.

I hope to see a lot of crying Gary come the new youngbird season mate

me too mate
But they can't begrudge the kids, can they

you will always have some bugger whinge Gaz.

the day i win a card the whole bloody street will here the screaming lol, my missus said to my son if dad ever wins a race with them things i will have to move into your room coz he'll move the winner into the bedroom lol

I would love to race from where you race from, especially up north. We just don't get the distance inland from up here.
It will come Steve, trust me, it will come.
One day Steve, you will breed some birds and you and them birds will just click.
It's magical when this happens mate, but it will come.

i hope so, you wouldnt like to race from here Gaz im the last drop, and im less than half a mile from the coast, i will try take some pics for you of my small loft, as i think i said theres a old boy at the club keeps saying 1 day that bloke will murder you lot, i can live in hope.
when i started with a converted 10 ft garden shed they seems to fly better,2 5ft sections 1 with YBs 1 with 8 race pair on natural, very tame with me to.

Gaz b wrote:

me too mate
But they can't begrudge the kids, can they

I know

EssexSteve wrote:

i hope so, you wouldnt like to race from here Gaz im the last drop, and im less than half a mile from the coast, i will try take some pics for you of my small loft, as i think i said theres a old boy at the club keeps saying 1 day that bloke will murder you lot, i can live in hope.
when i started with a converted 10 ft garden shed they seems to fly better,2 5ft sections 1 with YBs 1 with 8 race pair on natural, very tame with me to.

Steve its the pigeons that win not the lofts mate as long as the pigeons are happy thats what counts

EssexSteve wrote:

you will always have some bugger whinge Gaz.

the day i win a card the whole bloody street will here the screaming lol, my missus said to my son if dad ever wins a race with them things i will have to move into your room coz he'll move the winner into the bedroom lol

I would do the same mate

When it happens enjoy the moment

i think i just need them healthy, fit and trained, then i might start moving up the list

Last drop, that can certainly work to your advantage, think of the overfly, you just need faster birds.
I don't have a big loft here, it's only just over 12ft, with 2 sections, nothing like the ones the ones I built in the pics on the allotment for Kev.
Don't take this the wrong Steve, but you sound very negative mate.
Negativity don't belong in the pigeon loft mate.
Success will come, you just have to work hard at it.
Send to every race regardless.
With youngbirds you have to become ruthless, don't become too emotionally attached to any bird as it can be lost at the drop of a hat.
They are there to do a job, if they can't do that job they go, regardless of what they cost or who bred them.
Same goes with stock birds.
I know it sounds harsh Steve, but this is the difference between success and failure. You learn to become hard in this game.

oh yeah i know Gaz i know your right, just sometimes you wonder if you'll ever be good enough.
i wont bloody quit though i had always done sport of some kind i wont quit, i think i just need to have confidence in my birds and hope that they are fast enough and if not look for faster 1s.
when you do your best and go into it thinking they look good and when you clock at the time you think seems about right then you get to the club and your still bottom you doubt yourself.

Gaz b wrote:

Last drop, that can certainly work to your advantage, think of the overfly, you just need faster birds.
I don't have a big loft here, it's only just over 12ft, with 2 sections, nothing like the ones the ones I built in the pics on the allotment for Kev.
Don't take this the wrong Steve, but you sound very negative mate.
Negativity don't belong in the pigeon loft mate.
Success will come, you just have to work hard at it.
Send to every race regardless.
With youngbirds you have to become ruthless, don't become too emotionally attached to any bird as it can be lost at the drop of a hat.
They are there to do a job, if they can't do that job they go, regardless of what they cost or who bred them.
Same goes with stock birds.
I know it sounds harsh Steve, but this is the difference between success and failure. You learn to become hard in this game.

Spot on Gary 110% mate