Live yogurt to prevent young bird sickness

yes geordiejen nifuramycin is an antibiotic, and they say its good for treating Diarrhoeas, Gastro Intestinal Infect., Respiratory Tract, Salmonellosis.......it also contains vitamins, i always keep a sachet handy just in case, but only use it if absolutely necessary.

gordiejen if you have had ur pigeons tested and that's wat its came bk as . why wud you not treat with wat they advise you . I use libby at retford poultry for my tests I had yb last yr in some ov the very early yb she advised usin amoxicillin and pichones for 7 days and a gd probiotic for 5 days sorted it no problem as you say part virus part bacteria which the system ov the birds will need to be cleared out use a gd anti bacterial ie virkon-s and jeys alternative days kills the virus once they had it will need to be gt out ov system or it will keep raising its head lol I have my droppings tested regular as a lot know on here but will never treat blind I only treat wen and if theres a problem which is advised . ive had a few chats with libby about this ybs as we call it and she tells me its airbourne a lot bein carried by wid birds etc and wen ur birds are either peckin outside or in gutters usualy kicks it ov so maybe cud be something in wat she sayin ? but that's jmo all the best in wat you decide to do . steve

stew adenosan is specifically for young bird sickness.its anti bacterial,anti fungi and aids viral infection.in the past ive flock treated with batril and it was just a total mess.as we all know not all birds go down with whatever is in the loft.in turn this baytril caused birds to vomit the seed back up.baytril is a very powerful antibiotic wheras adenosan has been developed specifically for this infection.seems to be no adverse reaction with the healthy birds.when i treated with baytril it was for paratyphoid.i had a couple of youngins with wing boils.im starting to wonder if people who think they have young bird sickness dont actually have it.its something else thats causing the young to bring the seed back up.did they have an avian vet or pigeon vet come to there loft and have the birds tested.

its henk de weerd that is dealing with my birds.his surgery is in essex.

birdy 2001 if pigeons have a bacterial infection the worst thing to do is give them sugar,this in turn helps feed the bacteria.probiotics contains a lot of sugar by way of glucose and honey well just sugar too.

geordiejen wrote:

birdy 2001 if pigeons have a bacterial infection the worst thing to do is give them sugar,this in turn helps feed the bacteria.probiotics contains a lot of sugar by way of glucose and honey well just sugar too.

totally agree jen

thats my opinion and thats would do im not the one asking for the advice

dont take it the wrong way birdy im not having a go.infact i was putting plenty of probiotics into them and the vet told me this about the glucose.what i have to do is break the bacteria down,antibiotics will kill all the good bacteria too.then build them back up again.sugar encourages the bacteria to grow and as well as growing inside the bird if the drinker has sugar in it too then it can multiply in the drinkers.

Im Not convinced about Live yoghert at all, I never give it to my birds and never have, yet they are healthy and I dont seem to get sick birds.
We have a large fur tree in the drive way, there are some doves nesting in it and every night they roost in a certain spot, when you go there in the morning the droppings are piled up under the tree and are perfect, they dont get live yoghert?
I think the only cure is the bin if its a long term sickness, but as for off colour birds for a few days this is normal we all get them and so do we get birds who have been sick on the perch a few times, if it goes afta a few days no worries not YB sickness, but if they stay sick the must be removed.
I personally think if it doesnt go by itsself pumping yoghert into them will do nothing.

geordiejen wrote:

dont take it the wrong way birdy im not having a go.infact i was putting plenty of probiotics into them and the vet told me this about the glucose.what i have to do is break the bacteria down,antibiotics will kill all the good bacteria too.then build them back up again.sugar encourages the bacteria to grow and as well as growing inside the bird if the drinker has sugar in it too then it can multiply in the drinkers.

na im not like that repect all peoples views and comments

dont think its overcrowded.first section 5 feet by six feet 7 feet high has 5 pair.next section same size has 3 pair.and the next section same size was intended for 20 young has 2 pair.all weaned young are in my pouter loft in a single pen each.there is 9 of them and they all get out every second night for an hour.some pouter young are out with them as well.dont have any sign of sickness yet.

geordiejen wrote:

dont think its overcrowded.first section 5 feet by six feet 7 feet high has 5 pair.next section same size has 3 pair.and the next section same size was intended for 20 young has 2 pair.all weaned young are in my pouter loft in a single pen each.there is 9 of them and they all get out every second night for an hour.some pouter young are out with them as well.dont have any sign of sickness yet.

i think henk has prescribed the correct treatment but this wont kill the virus just control the e-coli and stop any secondary ailments its deffo sounds like a coli infection brought on by the stress of breeding and passed on to the ybs being in close proximity ....did you treat for e-coli before pairing up you dont need to use antibiotics....glucose and honey are great but will feed coli ...you need something acidic to kill coli or double dose with oregano for 7 days and anything with reasonable immunity will come through and if not will only let you down at a later stage and so the cycle will begin again

the active ingredients in nifuramycin are mainly furaltadone along with tetracyclines and some of the mycin family of drugs
furaltadone is quite an old antibiotic and nowhere near as harsh as beytril or enrofloxacin

the only thing i do mate is put a fresh clove of garlic in a 2 litre bottle of cold water,leave it overnight then strain it into another bottle.a capful of apple cider vinegar and 10ml of orego stim.the garlic is used monday to friday and at the weekend a dose of pigeon tonic and harkers provit.

yeah oldstrain the only thing i can do is help with the bacterial side the virus side will hopefully sort itself out.

geordiejen wrote:

the only thing i do mate is put a fresh clove of garlic in a 2 litre bottle of cold water,leave it overnight then strain it into another bottle.a capful of apple cider vinegar and 10ml of orego stim.the garlic is used monday to friday and at the weekend a dose of pigeon tonic and harkers provit.

get yourself a bottle of ropa B....much much better than orego stim and of course is oregano in itself and you can treat for bacterial attacks by double dosing for 7 days
great product ....i used to use orego stim but have been using ropaB for last 3 months and their is no comparison as for cider vinegar i use a mother cider vinegar but only give it once per week i dont use garlic anymore i use a tea instead to purify the blood and anyway the oregano should be enough atibacterial for the birds and tastes alot more pleasant i would imagine although i would not knock garlic in the right doses

whats ropa b mate never heard of it?

geordiejen wrote:

whats ropa b mate never heard of it?

its oregano but much more concentrated than orego stim oregano is a antibacterial itself and ropa B is the best oregano product out their ...pj lofts are the cheapest