Busschaerts. Still crazy after all these years.

to true ...i have 2 daughters with another hen 24 and 22 and the wee fella alfie is a late bred and only 4 months ....yes indeed the simple things in life are taken for granted by us all at times but we live and learn well some do lol

maricelbill wrote:

been ringing John Crowder for 3 days. He's out with a mate, the wife says. Some mate. As for Williamson they're not for me. They're bred down from Billy Parks. Wonderful wonderful pigeons won everything. South Road, North Road not a chance. A waste of time.

you got that one wrong Bill williamson was bertie fletchers loft manager berties bushys all came dirrect from bushy he bought a lot of the very best thats where super ronnies come from
bertie hardly raced the bushys it was the wildies that where the best for bertie
sean

I'm surprised the name of Arthur Wilkinson has not cropped up here.

Here's a testament to his strain still doing well over the distance.
http://www.elimarpigeons.com/Article5/Parkinson1612.htm

maricelbill wrote:

been ringing John Crowder for 3 days. He's out with a mate, the wife says. Some mate. As for Williamson they're not for me. They're bred down from Billy Parks. Wonderful wonderful pigeons won everything. South Road, North Road not a chance. A waste of time.

I struggled last year, i would like to try a pair or two babies next year from him maybe, im close enough to go and pick my own thankfully so could be a nice day out.

Gaz b wrote:

Yep I still got a hen here that was was bred form the original Ali Bros pigeons from the three musketeers lines.
Bang on Sean, cheers for that.

our bushs are from the 3 musketeers lines
the hen in my avatar is from there lines, good old quality lines

Gaz b wrote:

I'm surprised the name of Arthur Wilkinson has not cropped up here.

Here's a testament to his strain still doing well over the distance.
http://www.elimarpigeons.com/Article5/Parkinson1612.htm

Is that a recent article. Gaz? You're a mine of info. I seem to recall something about the Toft Cock, I could be wrong it was a long time ago.

Keep the stuff coming. Bill

fletch wrote:

Gaz b wrote:

Yep I still got a hen here that was was bred form the original Ali Bros pigeons from the three musketeers lines.
Bang on Sean, cheers for that.

our bushs are from the 3 musketeers lines
the hen in my avatar is from there lines, good old quality lines

I had a son of D'artagnan. Strangely, D'artagnan was not one of the Musketeers.
The three musketeers were Porthos, Athos, Aramus.

I think they are down the Crayone De45 side of things. Porthos left one hell of a legacy. Hope they flying well for you B'

maricelbill wrote:

fletch wrote:

Gaz b wrote:

Yep I still got a hen here that was was bred form the original Ali Bros pigeons from the three musketeers lines.
Bang on Sean, cheers for that.

our bushs are from the 3 musketeers lines
the hen in my avatar is from there lines, good old quality lines

I had a son of D'artagnan. Strangely, D'artagnan was not one of the Musketeers.
The three musketeers were Porthos, Athos, Aramus.

I think they are down the Crayone De45 side of things. Porthos left one hell of a legacy. Hope they flying well for you B'

thanks for that mate , yeah they still do a turn the thing is we bought these in early 90s from ron bowen entire clearence sale and a guy called wainright who was scoring well with them at the time,
they bred some class pigeons down the line, our birds are probley a million miles away from the originals we bought back then, as our policy is to pair best to best

maricelbill wrote:

fletch wrote:

Gaz b wrote:

Yep I still got a hen here that was was bred form the original Ali Bros pigeons from the three musketeers lines.
Bang on Sean, cheers for that.

our bushs are from the 3 musketeers lines
the hen in my avatar is from there lines, good old quality lines

I had a son of D'artagnan. Strangely, D'artagnan was not one of the Musketeers.
The three musketeers were Porthos, Athos, Aramus.

I think they are down the Crayone De45 side of things. Porthos left one hell of a legacy. Hope they flying well for you B'

they where named the 3 muskateers when the 4 droped together to win the 1st 4 positions in the combine out of wadebridge sean

seanl wrote:

maricelbill wrote:

fletch wrote:

Gaz b wrote:

Yep I still got a hen here that was was bred form the original Ali Bros pigeons from the three musketeers lines.
Bang on Sean, cheers for that.

our bushs are from the 3 musketeers lines
the hen in my avatar is from there lines, good old quality lines

I had a son of D'artagnan. Strangely, D'artagnan was not one of the Musketeers.
The three musketeers were Porthos, Athos, Aramus.

I think they are down the Crayone De45 side of things. Porthos left one hell of a legacy. Hope they flying well for you B'

they where named the 3 muskateers when the 4 droped together to win the 1st 4 positions in the combine out of wadebridge sean

Will second that

maricelbill wrote:

Don Webb wrote:

maricelbill wrote:

It's a long list, Turner, Beardsmore, most of the ones we know would have come through Deal. Larkins Henson The Reject Cock, Crayone, I think the reason we still call them Busschaerts is Belgian fanciers didn't buy into them like they did Janssen. The expression pure Busschaert refers to birds that descend only from birds that came from George Busschaert. It does not mean they will breed you winners. Same way if I buy a Van Loon I know it a Janssen. Now, who here knows an A.K Tonk? Are they still racing Busschaerts?

A.K.Tonks that is Arnie Tonks of wednesbury he is a top fancier a very good eyesign man also
Arnie races with his wife sylvia and son Neil

He had the busschaerts and his main ones came from a person called Harry Pessell of Coseley here in the midlands

Arnie races Marc deCock family now but i think he still has the busshaerts

Do you think Arnie Tonk would be in the phone directory if I just used wednesbury. I don't know if that's a village or a shire to be honest. English geography is puzzling. Have to say this little tet a tet is quite informative. I'm beginning to think there's a little piece of Busschaert in al of us

Do you want me to obtain Arnie and Barry's number for you ???????????????

Motion is carried!

Don Webb wrote:

maricelbill wrote:

Don Webb wrote:

maricelbill wrote:

It's a long list, Turner, Beardsmore, most of the ones we know would have come through Deal. Larkins Henson The Reject Cock, Crayone, I think the reason we still call them Busschaerts is Belgian fanciers didn't buy into them like they did Janssen. The expression pure Busschaert refers to birds that descend only from birds that came from George Busschaert. It does not mean they will breed you winners. Same way if I buy a Van Loon I know it a Janssen. Now, who here knows an A.K Tonk? Are they still racing Busschaerts?

A.K.Tonks that is Arnie Tonks of wednesbury he is a top fancier a very good eyesign man also
Arnie races with his wife sylvia and son Neil

He had the busschaerts and his main ones came from a person called Harry Pessell of Coseley here in the midlands

Arnie races Marc deCock family now but i think he still has the busshaerts

Do you think Arnie Tonk would be in the phone directory if I just used wednesbury. I don't know if that's a village or a shire to be honest. English geography is puzzling. Have to say this little tet a tet is quite informative. I'm beginning to think there's a little piece of Busschaert in al of us

Do you want me to obtain Arnie and Barry's number for you ???????????????

well done don always willing to help mate

Yep that's him mate Toft Hill.
Yes mate it's recent article, Tom Jackson has done extremely well with them over the years and a few others round and about.
There is another guy in Preston who has all the old Busschaert lines all bred from the old stuff. He too has done well over the years.
I'll see if I can find a link for him.
The North East has always been a hot bed for these birds.

fletch wrote:

Don Webb wrote:

maricelbill wrote:

Don Webb wrote:

maricelbill wrote:

It's a long list, Turner, Beardsmore, most of the ones we know would have come through Deal. Larkins Henson The Reject Cock, Crayone, I think the reason we still call them Busschaerts is Belgian fanciers didn't buy into them like they did Janssen. The expression pure Busschaert refers to birds that descend only from birds that came from George Busschaert. It does not mean they will breed you winners. Same way if I buy a Van Loon I know it a Janssen. Now, who here knows an A.K Tonk? Are they still racing Busschaerts?

A.K.Tonks that is Arnie Tonks of wednesbury he is a top fancier a very good eyesign man also
Arnie races with his wife sylvia and son Neil

He had the busschaerts and his main ones came from a person called Harry Pessell of Coseley here in the midlands

Arnie races Marc deCock family now but i think he still has the busshaerts

Do you think Arnie Tonk would be in the phone directory if I just used wednesbury. I don't know if that's a village or a shire to be honest. English geography is puzzling. Have to say this little tet a tet is quite informative. I'm beginning to think there's a little piece of Busschaert in al of us

Do you want me to obtain Arnie and Barry's number for you ???????????????

well done don always willing to help mate

You know me Lee always willing to help out mate

maricelbill wrote:

fletch wrote:

Don Webb wrote:

maricelbill wrote:

Don Webb wrote:

maricelbill wrote:

It's a long list, Turner, Beardsmore, most of the ones we know would have come through Deal. Larkins Henson The Reject Cock, Crayone, I think the reason we still call them Busschaerts is Belgian fanciers didn't buy into them like they did Janssen. The expression pure Busschaert refers to birds that descend only from birds that came from George Busschaert. It does not mean they will breed you winners. Same way if I buy a Van Loon I know it a Janssen. Now, who here knows an A.K Tonk? Are they still racing Busschaerts?

A.K.Tonks that is Arnie Tonks of wednesbury he is a top fancier a very good eyesign man also
Arnie races with his wife sylvia and son Neil

He had the busschaerts and his main ones came from a person called Harry Pessell of Coseley here in the midlands

Arnie races Marc deCock family now but i think he still has the busshaerts

Do you think Arnie Tonk would be in the phone directory if I just used wednesbury. I don't know if that's a village or a shire to be honest. English geography is puzzling. Have to say this little tet a tet is quite informative. I'm beginning to think there's a little piece of Busschaert in al of us

Do you want me to obtain Arnie and Barry's number for you ???????????????

that would just about make my day. really, very kind of you if you could. B'





well done don always willing to help mate

it's here, Don. confusing maybe.

Gaz b wrote:

Yep that's him mate Toft Hill.
Yes mate it's recent article, Tom Jackson has done extremely well with them over the years and a few others round and about.
There is another guy in Preston who has all the old Busschaert lines all bred from the old stuff. He too has done well over the years.
I'll see if I can find a link for him.
The North East has always been a hot bed for these birds.

did you recall the guy in preston, gaz? though i think I've almost got the people i want. hopefilly it'll be worth it!! don't want to bew the joker in the pack!

His name is Terry Tenant, he is an ex conveyer, but can't seem to get hold of him at the mo. But he had a lot of the old lines.

i found him gaz. Steve Foster is a mate of his and I've had a word with Steve. let you know if anything develops.

Nice one Bill, keep us posted mate.