Somerset 1 loft hot spot

The birds are going to Folkstone for last hot spot 165mls should be up between 7 & 9 in the morning so fingers crossed for a good one

Good luck hinge hope you have a good one mate you had any more back from St,Malo mate ?

best luck Ginger

No nothing at all still only the one

the birds are up in folkstone at 8.00 165mls should be a fast race east wind

Good luck ginger and to all thats racing

don't forget not to have ya birds out tomorrow morningcos we got the Solent bicc and the cscfc over this weekend I'm hop in to be down there but I'm still in hospital at the moment

59th ginger wellm done your still in the race mate

I see one our members was 2nd Rainstorm Boys I dont no who he is but well done        
I see Kevin was 25thas well well don all

Ginger wrote:

I see one our members was 2nd Rainstorm Boys I dont no who he is but well done        
I see Kevin was 25thas well well don all  

Hi Ginger, yes well done to the Rainstorm boys I reckon its the 1st gold ring bird through the traps too so an extra bonus for that  
Your bird is a good one too just over a minute after the winner.

We are 15 whole seconds behind on the trap with our 1st bird no 96 but he has climbed from 12th in the acebird to around 4th or 5th and that ended today.
Our 2nd bird is Lay by Eyesign 101 in 85th 4 mins after the first pigeon. Still only 160 home from 300 that went, We have 1 bird to come but he is always late no 82.
"What kind of a thing is happening this year in the UK" ????? RPRA race yesterday from no distance was dreadful again.
Onwards and Upwards for the Final and things will be tougher with the English channel to cross.

it seems where ever one loft races are there struggling even small ones is it anything to do with mixing so many birds from so many lofts

birdy2011 wrote:

it seems where ever one loft races are there struggling even small ones is it anything to  do with mixing so many birds from so many lofts

It did not affect them last year and its a good thing because it tests immunity and the weak die quickly so they cannot reproduce (Natural selection) there is something weird in the Atmosphere this year, 4 G  has just been launched and its going to get a lot worse very soon.
Hawks ARE a HUGE problem as when the YBs are beginning training and before that even, loft flying they will not leave them be and they traumatise them.
That being said it is something else on top of that too, our migratory birds are being affected so are the Honey bees who must fly away from the Hive and back home with the Pollen.
Activity on the Sun with solar flares is a natural thing but combine that with the man made 4G technology microwaves in the atmosphere then it is probably the cause of some of the problems birds and bees are experiencing.

Your are on the RIGHT track about birds haveing problems.
I have read where the "TRUE NORTH" has moved 15 degrees West.
This may be causeing some of the Problems.
Other comments Please.

thanks guys still in shock!! well done to everyone who had birds home  

Boxer wrote:

thanks guys still in shock!! well done to everyone who had birds home  

Congratulations Boxer:cheers:    

birdy2011 wrote:

it seems where ever one loft races are there struggling even small ones is it anything to  do with mixing so many birds from so many lofts

Graham !!!!! most would have to say yes, I think   when one studies these type of races & you consider in the most part, that  people place their best birds in them to test them out etc, what other explanation can you come too. The dedication that goes into the birds to get a good result is far & above what many flyers do with their own birds in my view. "Sadly"     we all know the sad & sorry tales that are told & there is a long history of them.  
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Knackered wrote:

birdy2011 wrote:

it seems where ever one loft races are there struggling even small ones is it anything to  do with mixing so many birds from so many lofts

Graham !!!!! most would have to say yes, I think   when one studies these type of races & you consider in the most part, that  people place their best birds in them to test them out etc, what other explanation can you come too. The dedication that goes into the birds to get a good result is far & above what many flyers do with their own birds in my view. "Sadly"     we all know the sad & sorry tales that are told & there is a long history of them.  
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But this never happened last year, 500 went to the final of the Somerset race. The birds have not died they have been lost through either 1 of 2 things.  A. something is affecting their navigation this year or B. Most of them are crap!

I would go with A. Once the birds are all in the loft together it is no different to them sharing a basket in the fed on race night.
You will always get a few  birds with weak immunity systems and they get sick after a couple of races because they are not up to the job.
What is happening this year is that birds that are very very Fit and Very very Healthy and are experienced are going missing at every toss.
At least a fith of the birds and more in some cases  "RPRA" are getting lost when last year they came home.
You expect to lose a few good experienced ones in the Final  especially over the sea but they are going down from around 100 miles.
Its the same story if not even worse in the club racing and the Feds this year though old birds included so its not isolated to OLR. Something weird is happening in our airwaves.

spencerline wrote:

Knackered wrote:

birdy2011 wrote:

it seems where ever one loft races are there struggling even small ones is it anything to  do with mixing so many birds from so many lofts

Graham !!!!! most would have to say yes, I think   when one studies these type of races & you consider in the most part, that  people place their best birds in them to test them out etc, what other explanation can you come too. The dedication that goes into the birds to get a good result is far & above what many flyers do with their own birds in my view. "Sadly"     we all know the sad & sorry tales that are told & there is a long history of them.  
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But this never happened last year, 500 went to the final of the Somerset race. The birds have not died they have been lost through either 1 of 2 things.  A. something is affecting their navigation this year or B. Most of them are crap!

I would go with A. Once the birds are all in the loft together it is no different to them sharing a basket in the fed on race night.
You will always get a few  birds with weak immunity systems and they get sick after a couple of races because they are not up to the job.
What is happening this year is that birds that are very very Fit and Very very Healthy and are experienced are going missing at every toss.
At least a fith of the birds and more in some cases  "RPRA" are getting lost when last year they came home.
You expect to lose a few good experienced ones in the Final  especially over the sea but they are going down from around 100 miles.
Its the same story if not even worse in the club racing and the  Feds this year though old birds included so its not isolated to OLR. Something weird is happening in our airwaves.

In general terms Kev, I think Graham & I were more talking about most of the one loft races etc & not just the Somerset race (could be wrong). If ??????   one wants a glorious example of how not to do things, just look no further than the South African race, it would be a brave man     who would say it has been a success, unless you think in money terms & the birds are just a means to an end type of thing.  
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Knackered wrote:

spencerline wrote:

Knackered wrote:

birdy2011 wrote:

it seems where ever one loft races are there struggling even small ones is it anything to  do with mixing so many birds from so many lofts

Graham !!!!! most would have to say yes, I think   when one studies these type of races & you consider in the most part, that  people place their best birds in them to test them out etc, what other explanation can you come too. The dedication that goes into the birds to get a good result is far & above what many flyers do with their own birds in my view. "Sadly"     we all know the sad & sorry tales that are told & there is a long history of them.  
*****

But this never happened last year, 500 went to the final of the Somerset race. The birds have not died they have been lost through either 1 of 2 things.  A. something is affecting their navigation this year or B. Most of them are crap!

I would go with A. Once the birds are all in the loft together it is no different to them sharing a basket in the fed on race night.
You will always get a few  birds with weak immunity systems and they get sick after a couple of races because they are not up to the job.
What is happening this year is that birds that are very very Fit and Very very Healthy and are experienced are going missing at every toss.
At least a fith of the birds and more in some cases  "RPRA" are getting lost when last year they came home.
You expect to lose a few good experienced ones in the Final  especially over the sea but they are going down from around 100 miles.
Its the same story if not even worse in the club racing and the  Feds this year though old birds included so its not isolated to OLR. Something weird is happening in our airwaves.

In general terms Kev, I think Graham & I were more talking about most of the one loft races etc & not just the Somerset race (could be wrong). If ??????   one wants a glorious example of how not to do things, just look no further than the South African race, it would be a brave man     who would say it has been a success, unless you think in money terms & the birds are just a means to an end type of thing.  
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Hi Knackered, I was just using the Somerset OLR as an example of birds congregating together from different lofts and not all getting lost and there were other examples in other OLR last year where the birds arrived in big groups from training and racing and losses were normal for fanciers trying out new stock.
This year No body can take a big team of birds away to a race or even a small trainer and have them arrive as they should no matter how fit or healthy they are.

The example you use in SA is biased as many of the birds must go into quarantine before they are allowed into the lofts and birds travelling from Europe have a Hellish journey to even get there to the lofts and that cannot help. A much better example is the Golden Algarve race in the Algarve Portugal where they still have 1477 birds left from 1600 and the birds are mixed from allover Europe.
This disproves the dubious theory that "Birds are being lost due to mixing from different lofts"
You cannot lay the losses at the door of OLR when in clubs and Feds all over the land it seems that around 7 out of 10 fanciers have never lost as many birds as this year. Besides the obvious Nuisance of the over populated Hawks and Raptors there is an unseen problem in our skys or airways

Everybody to their own whether or not they like OLR but they are here to stay and they are the way forward in the sport for many fanciers who cannot keep birds in their gardens due to ill informed neighbours and local councils complaining about them. OLR will help to stop pigeon keeping or racing dying out.

It is not OLR fault that birds are being lost as the birds in general are looked after and conditioned far far better than birds in many small lofts up and down the country.

Hi lads I'm not in the OLR so I'm nuetral to this topic, I fly out of Ireland and I can tell yous now we are having the very same problem over here with losses and sickness, this has been the worst year for many accomplished flyers over here there have been some serious losses at every level of racing. There is a lot of flyers I know that would of had 80 ybs at the start of the season and are down to 15 birds no one can explain this, there is not even any birds getting reported its a mystery to us over here as well to where the birds are going. So to blame anyone or point the finger would be wrong not that I've read anyone doing that here. The point is its all over lads not just OLR from this site. I'm sure we would all like answers for this problem but the fact is lads we are not going to get it when the birds are gone either due to hawk attacks or Wires or the magnetic field what ever the case maybe there is nothing you or I can do about it so what I've had to do and I'm sure most of yous do is move on and hope for a better season next year best of luck lads..