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PostSubject: total beginner    total beginner  EmptySat Apr 19, 2014 7:44 am

hi all for years i have kept birds of some discription . so i have a shed 10x10 wth a 6x4 add on leading in to a 12x4 out side flight ,thought of using this area for young birds .i will convert as to how it needs to be (being a joiner ) not take long i want to convert the 10x10 area to house cocks/hens and breeding area .i cant expand any more i only want a small stud of birds can you tell me how you would do it please .will post pics so you get an idea of what i have to work with .

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PostSubject: Re: total beginner    total beginner  EmptySat Apr 19, 2014 7:47 am

as you can see the front has been extended since last pic i will do all that is needed to convert it vent remove window etc.
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PostSubject: Re: total beginner    total beginner  EmptySat Apr 19, 2014 8:25 am

To me the first thing you have to do is at the bottom of the new shed you should get that 3 by 2 coverd has you have it open to all weathers and that will go very quick, get all the branches out and put what we box perches along the back wall about 10 by 10 inches dont no the new numbers, and get some lovers along the bottom to get some air around the shed that is one one the main things to have good air flow, I hope you dont mind me telling you but that is what I would do I will be shot down hope it helps a bit, take all that is told and use what sauts you best, good luck mate fine job up to now.
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PostSubject: Re: total beginner    total beginner  EmptySat Apr 19, 2014 8:41 am

the small first pic the ply is covered by the white pvc board put pics in wrong order nothing is exposed ,the branches dont impeed but will be cut back as you say thanks for replying. also want to no what size comparments to split into in the 10x10 section .cheers ie breed ing area etc,on the front of the add on the window is right size for a sputnik trap 970mm long so this is were i thought best for the young birds as they have accsess to the aviary area ,the other window can be removed to fit another sputnik for the cocks hens etc .
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PostSubject: Re: total beginner    total beginner  EmptySat Apr 19, 2014 8:51 am

hi trev...I would create another 2 openings in the ply front 1 either side of the window for trapping then divide down the middle the full depth for cocks and hens but you will probably need a skylight for each section because of its depth and lack of light getting to the back of the sections ...the other section with aviary is ideal for ybs ,theirs so much you could do with that but that's what I would do I am sure their will be some other ideas forthcoming atb with your venture
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PostSubject: Re: total beginner    total beginner  EmptySat Apr 19, 2014 9:05 am

cheers oldstrain would either of the cock /hen section double up as breeding area as well !
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PostSubject: Re: total beginner    total beginner  EmptySat Apr 19, 2014 9:11 am

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cheers oldstrain would either of the cock /hen section double up as breeding area as well !

why not if you had stock that was flying out ...ie some late bred young birds ...you could even make the partition down the middle 6ft across the front for cocks and 4 ft for hens creating a 10x6 for cocks and a 10x4 for hens with sputniks on the front of the plywood extension but ventilation is important and good air flow


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PostSubject: Re: total beginner    total beginner  EmptySat Apr 19, 2014 9:19 am

if i knew how do draw a plan on here it would help you see inside
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PostSubject: Re: total beginner    total beginner  EmptySat Apr 19, 2014 9:24 am

air flow and ventilation is really important for the health of the birds trev that's one of yer main goals and that's the easiest way I can think of having it and creating natural air flow of course you could adopt a mechanical system but that's not a field I am familiar with
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PostSubject: Re: total beginner    total beginner  EmptySat Apr 19, 2014 9:43 am

yes that plan is as I thought it to be m8 ...if you had sputniks on the front and a 2 inch gap across the whole of the back at the top where it meets the roof (mesh this over to stop rodents and vermin getting in) then you would have good air flow and not to much chopping about of yer shed you could have the front 2 feet with the sputniks on working as a corridor also you would be able to have a few corn bins their ...like I said theirs so much you could do but that's my tilt on it atb trev and the main thing is to enjoy the birds m8  Wink 
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PostSubject: Re: total beginner    total beginner  EmptySun Apr 20, 2014 10:44 am

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if i knew how do draw a plan on here it would help you see inside

Trev  Smile Smile  you might just like to keep in mind etc that an ideal section in my view, is one where you can stand in the middle type of thing & touch all 4 walls. Helps to keep the birds tame & that makes them much better than if they are ratty in there nature. Nice job so far etc & makes my chicken coop  Rolling Eyes  Rolling Eyes down the back here very ordinary looking.  cheers 
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PostSubject: Re: total beginner    total beginner  EmptySun Apr 20, 2014 10:50 am

its all lined out and insulated because at the moment still have a few pairs of aussie finches in with young but i will make all the changes needed as i have always wanted to race pigeons only small scale mind ya. just looking at best way to divide up the inside will make all the dowel frames boxes etc needed a lot to learn i know but every thing is once you start .
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