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Boosey Youngbird
Posts : 2064 Join date : 2013-08-09 Age : 53 Location : Basildon, Essex
| Subject: Louella young birds Wed Sep 17, 2014 10:55 pm | |
| Did any of our members buy a youngen or a kit of youngens from louella this year and if so what breed were they and how did they get on.
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43226 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: Louella young birds Wed Sep 17, 2014 11:16 pm | |
| don't know of anyone who did boosey, but for the price of 6 its worth trying them.....weve had some good pigeons off louella many years ago, but cant say what they are like now. |
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halcanada Youngbird
Posts : 4206 Join date : 2014-03-11 Age : 84 Location : Southern Ontario. Canada.
| Subject: Re: Louella young birds Wed Sep 17, 2014 11:32 pm | |
| Boosey. Louella does what most commercial pigeon sellers do. They buy the best from flavour of the month or year champions and then either breed the 'family' together or cross them. No matter were you get them from, Louella or others, odds are the same. Pure this or that is redundant nowadays. Names mean nothing. However if I were to buy off a top flier, I would buy 10 young birds. My expectations would be to get one very good one and others just average or below. But again, one in ten is pushing the odds. All the top sellers will put in the pedigrees results of the few they have that are super. If you are looking to get good birds then look around the UK. A flier in the UK or elsewhere for that matter, obviously has a strain of birds that excel at the distances he flies. There are more good birds in the UK than whatever came out of the Continent. PIPA hypes them up at auctions and big prices are paid. From overseas buyers. Do not get fooled by the advertising! Or pedigrees! performance counts. will the non performing pedigree pigeons make breeders? Who wants to keep them and find out? Just my opinion. |
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Knackered Oldbird
Posts : 14506 Join date : 2013-03-11
| Subject: Re: Louella young birds Thu Sep 18, 2014 6:13 am | |
| - Boosey wrote:
- Did any of our members buy a youngen or a kit of youngens from louella this year and if so what breed were they and how did they get on.
Boosey, I would be quite happy to take a punt on I/2 kits from them etc as long as it was my choice, what finishes up in the kit type of thing. ***** |
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barnie Youngbird
Posts : 3066 Join date : 2012-07-25
| Subject: Re: Louella young birds Thu Sep 18, 2014 8:47 am | |
| I think they lost their way when they started buying families of birds based on "in fashion" colours. There should be some decent yb's bred when you consider how many stock they keep, law of averages, but you got to get close to the tree not 4 or 5 generations away. |
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Rudderfett Youngbird
Posts : 2152 Join date : 2009-09-27 Age : 55 Location : pembrokeshire
| Subject: Re: Louella young birds Thu Sep 18, 2014 8:58 pm | |
| back in about 1998 I bought a kit from louella it was 6 for 99 quid, so I went for van reets. However after booking early and paying for them I changed my job and had to give pigeons up for a while, so I gave the youngsters to a mate of mine locally free.
It wasnt for ages after I happened to ask him how they got on racing, he said they were all trained fine but lost a few, but there was 1 and it was a great little racer and won quite a bit, which did surprise me a bit, think it won 2 firsts. So you just need to be lucky. |
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Rudderfett Youngbird
Posts : 2152 Join date : 2009-09-27 Age : 55 Location : pembrokeshire
| Subject: Re: Louella young birds Thu Sep 18, 2014 9:01 pm | |
| Also like to say, I have bought a few old birds from them years ago and I still have quite a few, some were excellent breeders and well worth the money...Some of the birds doing well for me are from those birds. |
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Boosey Youngbird
Posts : 2064 Join date : 2013-08-09 Age : 53 Location : Basildon, Essex
| Subject: Re: Louella young birds Thu Sep 18, 2014 9:17 pm | |
| Rudderfett, what breed were the oldens. I look at the site quite a lot but havnt bought anything yet as I wouldnt like to buy a bird without handling it first. There does seem to be a few bargains on there if you look regilarly. |
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Don Webb Oldbird
Posts : 14926 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 51 Location : Tipton
| Subject: Re: Louella young birds Thu Sep 18, 2014 9:25 pm | |
| When Louella were doing the 6 for £99, I visited one sunday morning/afternoon and from what I saw the youngsters was the kits of 6 but there were only 1 or 2 which were worth buying the rest were just not up to standard
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Don Webb Oldbird
Posts : 14926 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 51 Location : Tipton
| Subject: Re: Louella young birds Thu Sep 18, 2014 9:27 pm | |
| Mind you I know plenty of fanciers that would buy 5 kits and race them hard and have some good pigeons from them but its like doing a lucky dip |
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Boosey Youngbird
Posts : 2064 Join date : 2013-08-09 Age : 53 Location : Basildon, Essex
| Subject: Re: Louella young birds Thu Sep 18, 2014 9:43 pm | |
| I think your right Don, it is a bit of a lottery. I think its good for someone that hasnt got any winning bloodlines to maybe pick up a bargain. Its possible to pick up grand children of multiple combine / open winners on there sometimes for around £70, and that would be exciting for someone to try at a very reasonable price that currently have a loft full of under achievers. |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43226 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: Louella young birds Fri Sep 19, 2014 11:26 am | |
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Don Webb Oldbird
Posts : 14926 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 51 Location : Tipton
| Subject: Re: Louella young birds Sat Sep 20, 2014 10:40 am | |
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Don Webb Oldbird
Posts : 14926 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 51 Location : Tipton
| Subject: Re: Louella young birds Sat Sep 20, 2014 10:46 am | |
| - Boosey wrote:
- I think your right Don, it is a bit of a lottery.
I think its good for someone that hasnt got any winning bloodlines to maybe pick up a bargain. Its possible to pick up grand children of multiple combine / open winners on there sometimes for around £70, and that would be exciting for someone to try at a very reasonable price that currently have a loft full of under achievers. Boosey drop Steve a PM (S J Lofts) he has the best Staf van Reets in the country the best of Mark Caldwell and Steve wins also Boosey I have seen his pigeons and they are quality mate |
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Boosey Youngbird
Posts : 2064 Join date : 2013-08-09 Age : 53 Location : Basildon, Essex
| Subject: Re: Louella young birds Sat Sep 20, 2014 7:22 pm | |
| Thanks Don, but I only ever look at Louella ive never actually bought anything, im going to be paying back money that ive borrowed for getting my new loft built for months yet. Im already in the dog house with the misus for spending too much, I think I'd wake up minus something if I spent another penny on pigeons this side of xmas. Im sure Sj lofts will have no trouble selling their birds, the quality that they are. |
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Rudderfett Youngbird
Posts : 2152 Join date : 2009-09-27 Age : 55 Location : pembrokeshire
| Subject: Re: Louella young birds Sat Sep 20, 2014 10:10 pm | |
| The youngsters I bought as I said were van reets but I never even seen them so cant comment, the old birds I have bought were corbert bushearts all have bred winners, janssens via braspenning which were very good and I still have most, janssens via v.d.bocshe which are very good and I still have 2, and janssens via pow brothers and again very good birds and have 2.
So out of about 22 stock birds bought I dispatched most within 2 years because they bred nothing, but kept 8 because they bred good or very good pigeons, some winners, but the corbert bush cock , and a janssen cock bred the odd exceptional bird as well, and the family runs right through my loft now all crossed with something. |
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