race team should you rear or not

Some say you should rear from your old birds to help bond them to their box does it really matter whether they have a youngster or not or just sit eggs is it nessacery for cocks to have hens or fly them celabut

Mark for me it's what makes the pigeon tick, but I do think if you let them breed it does help the natural instinct come out of the pigeon JMO

But everyone if different just like your pigeons

Yes don don't really no if its nessasery to breed from them I'm not this year but they say it helps with the homing instinct not rearing from them does away with any weaknesses that may be there

markevans wrote:

Some say you should rear from your old birds to help bond them to their box does it really matter whether they have a youngster or not or just sit eggs is it nessacery for cocks to have hens or fly them celabut

Why not Mark if one breeds out of the best off the race team I suspect/know you can find some cracking youngsters etc. If one thinks about it on average they are at there prime health wise/fitnese & in most cases they have the pleasure of flying out as such, at least here. Which from my perspective is all on the bonus side of things with what may come out of the egg. Then again I know nothing so all the above may be a load of tripe.

I always have reared from my racers but not racing ybs this year will be interesting to compare

My mate last year bred nothing from his racers, I raced mine natural and reared 2 each, We both had excellent season not out of the top 5 weekly I topped section once he did it twice we had very similar results, I won old bird averages for first 5 races he won combined over the whole season. So it makes no difference if you ask me, I did have very slightly better returns.

I have no choice I have to breed from my racers as I don't have stock section yet, I think Don is right it helps bring out the love of home. Jmo

we let them rear 1 nest as we think it bonds the pair to the box and a stronger bond for the pair and if you flot the eggs you can get more off your best pigeons

I've thought of single rearing

Why not breed out of the race team as most good racers end up in the stock loft anyway.

cowandchicken wrote:

Why not breed out of the race team as most good racers end up in the stock loft anyway.

agree their m8

no one can say for sure if a bird is going to breed winners or not its fact
now if you were to buy say six y/b and keep them for stock then you be buying blind
as for breeding off race birds why not any bird that is past the yearling stage
in the loft thats not had a few prizes shouldnt be in there full stop the odds it will win something is slim
if your stock is good enough and breeding winners float the eggs
but any bird that wins prizes should have a chance to produce its like
if there no good what have you lost nothing
a pigeon will take a box and stick to it with or without a mate
we put 9 yearlings in a section of there own they never been in there befor
all have taken a box and settled it will be interesting to see if any that took the top 3 boxs win anything 2 of the 3 that took top boxs had miner prize cards yet 2 that won races have taken a bottom box
ile let you know

birdy2011 wrote:

no one can say for sure if a bird is going to breed winners or not its fact
now if you were to buy say six y/b and keep them for stock then you be buying blind
as for breeding off race birds why not any bird that is past the yearling stage
in the loft thats not  had a few prizes shouldnt be in there full stop the odds it will win something is slim
if your stock is good enough and breeding winners float the eggs
but any bird that wins prizes should have a chance to produce its like
if there no good what have you lost nothing
a pigeon will take a box and stick to it with or without a mate
we put 9 yearlings in a section of there own they never been in there befor
all have taken a box and settled it will be interesting to see if any that took the top 3 boxs win anything 2 of the 3 that took top boxs had miner prize cards yet 2 that won races have taken a bottom box
ile let you know

are you racing these celibate g

undecided yet daz the odds are widdowhood but starting racing late may
with them

ah rite good luck whatever ya decide atb

My set up is so small I have to breed of every bird available

D J LOFTS wrote:

we let them rear 1 nest as we think it bonds the pair to the box and a stronger bond for  the pair and if you flot the eggs you can get more off your best pigeons

Spot on there you can get2rounds from stock with in a 2 week period

birdy2011 wrote:

no one can say for sure if a bird is going to breed winners or not its fact
now if you were to buy say six y/b and keep them for stock then you be buying blind
as for breeding off race birds why not any bird that is past the yearling stage
in the loft thats not  had a few prizes shouldnt be in there full stop the odds it will win something is slim
if your stock is good enough and breeding winners float the eggs
but any bird that wins prizes should have a chance to produce its like
if there no good what have you lost nothing
a pigeon will take a box and stick to it with or without a mate
we put 9 yearlings in a section of there own they never been in there befor
all have taken a box and settled it will be interesting to see if any that took the top 3 boxs win anything 2 of the 3 that took top boxs had miner prize cards yet 2 that won races have taken a bottom box
ile let you know

Your spot on Gas always

EssexSteve wrote:

I've thought of single rearing

Steve you will breed a very strong youngster plus it puts less stress on the parents JMO

cowandchicken wrote:

Why not breed out of the race team as most good racers end up in the stock loft anyway.

A bit on the simple side CC etc I suspect You should have a go at the Kiss senaro . With your line of thought, it may just work .