Advise required etc.

I'm quite sure some here have seen my thoughts etc on our new super doopper     new transporter as such here, which has a fan . As such, I'm looking for advise, as what is normal for the crates some here may use when loading onto your trucks on race day. Occupational health & safety is a big issue here & the builder in his wisdom "The p*ss pot" has delivered us 100 odd crates to use with no handles to carry them type of thing when loading. So my question is, what is normal when you blokes have too load your birds there & also the new big thing which is going to solve all our water type issues with the birds drinking is, sponges in all water troughs etc. So once again I ask what is normal come race day for you blokes here    .

morning knackered....our crates have no handles, we just grab it where we can on the side, 2 people carrying it.

as for water, we have troughs on the baskets while basketing, then they are removed before placed on the transporter, as for watering before the race or during a hold over ive no idea, I presume it will be troughs again as the vehicle is no fancy thing with central corridors for access.......

you definately need handles on crates when moving them

Got to have handles. They are bloody heavy things to lift especially if 20 0lus birds in.also it's easier to drop them without handles .I for one wouldn't like to take that chance on basketing day

a dockers hook can be quite handy

im in leeds, we don't have handles...........we`re lucky to have running water and electric

oldstrain wrote:

a dockers hook can be quite handy

MMMMMMMMMmmmmmm would that be same O/S as a one arm from Bristol with a hook etc. I suspect the balancing act trick could be a bit of a problem thou .

peel bros wrote:

Got to have handles. They are bloody heavy things to lift especially if 20 0lus birds in.also it's easier to drop them without handles .I for one wouldn't like to take that chance on basketing day

20 plus. Oh to be so lucky Ray. 32 is the go here now, in a 3ft x 3ft box as such, for a Friday night basketing.

David wrote:

im in leeds, we don't have handles...........we`re lucky to have running water and electric  

Thanks David for that bit of info I will make sure I by pass Leeds etc when next in town there .

I was on about the club baskets ..but 32 in one basket.bloody hell talk about squashed lol

peel bros wrote:

I was on about the club baskets ..but 32 in one basket.bloody hell talk about squashed lol

You can well laugh Ray but that arn't nothing sadly. I have an A-4 sheet here of questions/query's, 23 actually for our local executive member at our meeting to-night here & I can tell you he will be ducking & diving trying to come up with an answer, that makes any sense to me I suspect I'm .

Well if that many are going in questions do need answering. We have 25 bird limits on our baskets but we try to keep it to about 22 to make the birds more comfortable on their long journey ahead.especially when they are travelling and in baskets 12 hours or longer

peel bros wrote:

Well if that many are going in questions do need answering. We have 25 bird limits on our baskets but we try to keep it to about 22 to make the birds more comfortable on their long journey ahead.especially when they are travelling and in baskets 12 hours or longer

Some of us are fighting for that type of thing Ray here but the chook farmers     don't want a bar of it sadly. Now sitting here I've just thought of a few more questions that need to be added to my list . Might just take up canary's for a bit less stress .

Haha I know where your coming from

no handles on our crates we have 16 cocks and 18 hens on land and 14 cocks and 16 hens over the water for food troughs run along side the crates when the birds are finished eating the waters put in all crates have wire gril floors with paper under size of crates 24 inch x 36 inch about

around 18 per crate.....horse bedding on floor....

markevans wrote:

no handles on our crates we have 16 cocks and 18 hens on land and 14 cocks and 16 hens over the water for food troughs run along side the crates when the birds are finished eating the waters put in all crates have wire gril floors with paper under size of crates 24 inch x 36 inch about

When I bought my A-4 list of issues out last at our meeting here Mark  & spoke about the birds per crate issue, I felt I was one another planet with my concerns & then when I got down to the sponge issue & said my piece one old fellow asleep in the corner "ex pom" spang to attention & said Your talking sense with your concerns etc & then fell asleep again till the meeting finished. Our wizard secretary then thou, told me not to worry, we will just replace them all each week type of thing & I just didn't have the heart to ask by whom & at what cost type of thing & then the final cruncher was we have all been ask to bring each week with our entry form a local news paper to place in the bottom of the crates.

peel bros wrote:

Haha I know where your coming  from

One for you Ray reading the minutes from the last Fed meeting etc last night at my club & the recommendation coming down from the top brass as such is for 32.4 pigeons per crate. The little fat bloke & myself are rather concerned we will not be able reach their target unfortunately. Any help here would be appreciated.

18 in a crate for us 15 for longer races I think

oldstrain wrote:

18 in a crate for us 15 for longer races I think

Maybe the differance O/S between our numbers etc is we have a fan on our super dooper truck here.

Knackered wrote:

oldstrain wrote:

18 in a crate for us 15 for longer races I think

Maybe the differance O/S between our numbers etc is we have a fan on our super dooper truck here.

yeah I would be concerned oz if it was mine going on that transporter

oldstrain wrote:

Knackered wrote:

oldstrain wrote:

18 in a crate for us 15 for longer races I think

Maybe the differance O/S between our numbers etc is we have a fan on our super dooper truck here.

yeah I would be concerned oz if it was mine going on that transporter

O/S Our new president of our Fed appears to me to be a church going type as he keeps telling us all to have faith & we will just see how things work out, from week to week etc. Now, no names     but one could say, that's a flying blind type of situation    .  

It's the .4 I am worried about.that's what's causing the overcrowding lol

peel bros wrote:

It's the .4 I am worried about.that's what's causing the overcrowding lol

That may be true Ray but I'm looking for answers as to how I can get that .4 in the crates as required, to get value for my money etc .