Geerinckx pigeons

Does anyone have any or know anything about the family of pigeons Geerinckx.

I don't want to buy any right now, I have a couple and just find out a bit more about this particular breed of pigeons.

Please reply if you can help.

Thanks
Phil (blueskylofts)

is this the same man on face book phil...?

https://www.facebook.com/bartgeerinckxpigeons


premier stud sell them;

http://212.47.245.6/pp/geerinckx.html


some info here on pipa;

http://www.pipa.be/en/newsandarticles/reports/luc-bart-jurgen-geerinckx-wommelgem-be-their-pigeons-also-form-basis-numerou

David wrote:

is this the same man on face book phil...?

https://www.facebook.com/bartgeerinckxpigeons


premier stud sell them;

http://212.47.245.6/pp/geerinckx.html


some info here on pipa;

http://www.pipa.be/en/newsandarticles/reports/luc-bart-jurgen-geerinckx-wommelgem-be-their-pigeons-also-form-basis-numerou

Thanks David,

I got my birds directly from Bart and I know Derek at Primer Stud. But thanks anyway.

I wanted to know a bit more about the characteristics of this breed of bird. the one I have a a bit different to any other pigeon I have ever had. They are without doubt 'Individuals'.

Cheers
Phil

this blood is in the gevaerts my m8 had but he got rid after ybs did nowt but last week he was 26th combine with one
of the yearlings ...daft sod never gave um chance andy gregson doing well with same lines

oldstrain wrote:

this blood is in the gevaerts my m8 had but he got rid after ybs did nowt but last week he was 26th combine with one
of the yearlings ...daft sod never gave um chance andy gregson doing well with same lines

Yes oldstrain - the Geerinckx family are renowned as 'Late Developers'. I was talking to the boss of Premier Stud yesterday and he was telling me that his very best birds in the last few longer races were Geerincks.

But they did NOTHING as young birds. They are on the larger side, but very powerful, they don't need a lot to eat to keep them in top condition and are magnificent at the longer races, when they really come into their own.

I have only one breeding pair, but have more booked for the end of the year.

Phil

blueskylofts wrote:

oldstrain wrote:

this blood is in the gevaerts my m8 had but he got rid after ybs did nowt but last week he was 26th combine with one
of the yearlings ...daft sod never gave um chance andy gregson doing well with same lines

Yes oldstrain - the Geerinckx family are renowned as 'Late Developers'.  I was talking to the boss of Premier Stud yesterday and he was telling me that his very best birds in the last few longer races were Geerincks.  

But they did NOTHING as young birds.  They are on the larger side, but very powerful, they don't need a lot to eat to keep them in top condition and are magnificent at the longer races, when they really come into their own.

I have only one breeding pair, but have more booked for the end of the year.

Phil

Phil the main blood is Jos Soontjens pigeons mate

Don Webb wrote:

blueskylofts wrote:

oldstrain wrote:

this blood is in the gevaerts my m8 had but he got rid after ybs did nowt but last week he was 26th combine with one
of the yearlings ...daft sod never gave um chance andy gregson doing well with same lines

Yes oldstrain - the Geerinckx family are renowned as 'Late Developers'.  I was talking to the boss of Premier Stud yesterday and he was telling me that his very best birds in the last few longer races were Geerincks.  

But they did NOTHING as young birds.  They are on the larger side, but very powerful, they don't need a lot to eat to keep them in top condition and are magnificent at the longer races, when they really come into their own.

I have only one breeding pair, but have more booked for the end of the year.

Phil

Phil the main blood is Jos Soontjens pigeons mate

And do you know anything about those?

are soontjen pigeons janssen based...?

David wrote:

are soontjen pigeons janssen based...?

I don't know but I hope not!
Phil

blueskylofts wrote:

David wrote:

are soontjen pigeons janssen based...?

I don't know but I hope not!
Phil

why do you hope not phil

oldstrain wrote:

blueskylofts wrote:

David wrote:

are soontjen pigeons janssen based...?

I don't know but I hope not!
Phil

why do you hope not phil

Because I think Janssen pigeons have had their day.

I know a lot of people will disagree - so don't bother telling me so. I just know that there are a lot better racing pigeons breeds, around the world at this time.

Phil

I think the janssen blood runs through many "modern day" fashionable breeds we have today, probably hard pushed to find pigeons who arnt janssen based somewhere along the line.........

Jannsssens also brought in crosses. Strain names mean nothing.

yes they certainly did hal, like all "breeds" / "blood lines" they originated from some other fancier, and as soon as it went into the new owners loft, it took their name....

David wrote:

I think the janssen blood runs through many "modern day" fashionable breeds we have today, probably hard pushed to find pigeons who arnt janssen based somewhere along the line.........

I think you are right David - there are very few breeds/strains of pigeon these days , that do not have a whole host of bloodlines in them.

blueskylofts wrote:

oldstrain wrote:

blueskylofts wrote:

David wrote:

are soontjen pigeons janssen based...?

I don't know but I hope not!
Phil

why do you hope not phil

Because I think Janssen pigeons have had their day.

I know a lot of people will disagree - so don't bother telling me so.  I just know that there are a lot better racing pigeons breeds, around the world at this time.

Phil

the frans zwols seem to be doing well in the uk a good all round family

blueskylofts wrote:

Don Webb wrote:

blueskylofts wrote:

oldstrain wrote:

this blood is in the gevaerts my m8 had but he got rid after ybs did nowt but last week he was 26th combine with one
of the yearlings ...daft sod never gave um chance andy gregson doing well with same lines

Yes oldstrain - the Geerinckx family are renowned as 'Late Developers'.  I was talking to the boss of Premier Stud yesterday and he was telling me that his very best birds in the last few longer races were Geerincks.  

But they did NOTHING as young birds.  They are on the larger side, but very powerful, they don't need a lot to eat to keep them in top condition and are magnificent at the longer races, when they really come into their own.

I have only one breeding pair, but have more booked for the end of the year.

Phil

Phil the main blood is Jos Soontjens pigeons mate

And do you know anything about those?

Luc Geerinckx was Jos Soontjens apprentice and were Bart Geerinckx lives is in the same street as were Jos lived as a matter of fact Bart lives about for houses from were Jos's house was they both always swapped pigeons

Jos always raced at sprint and Bart used a cross into the sootjens to get them to race out to middle distance

The Racing Pigeon advertised a film of the Geerinckx family which was narrated by Dave Allen and yes I have seen the film and the Herbot Brothers
brought the soontjen family according to Dave Allen on the film

Hope this helps you Phil

Forgo to say that Jos Soontjen also flew in partnership with Staf Van Reet for one season so the van reets have soontjen blood in them

Plus the Jan Gonderlars pigeons had Staf van Reet running through them also

blueskylofts wrote:

David wrote:

I think the janssen blood runs through many "modern day" fashionable breeds we have today, probably hard pushed to find pigeons who arnt janssen based somewhere along the line.........

I think you are right David - there are very few breeds/strains of pigeon these days , that do not have a whole host of bloodlines in them.

To be honest Phil you'll find it hard not to find Janssen blood in any family of today but everything in belguim is a Hienz variety 57 as they are only interested in performance pigeons not the pedigree

I think staf van reets have janssen blood in them too, if im not mistaken don.....

Don Webb wrote:

Forgo to say that Jos Soontjen also flew in partnership with Staf Van Reet for one season so the van reets have soontjen blood in them

Plus the Jan Gonderlars pigeons had Staf van Reet running through them also

Very helpful Dan,

However all that does not tell me anything about the character of the strain. The ones I have are very different to any other pigeons I have ever had.

For example:-
They seem to prefer being on their own.
When they fly with the kit, thy are always either in the lead or off to the side somewhere
They are slow to come and eat
They don't need to eat as much as the others, yet still grow and develop very quickly
They are quite large birds - I only have one breeding pair, the cock is quite big, but not overly big and the hen is small, but they have thrown large youngsters up to now, and ALL the babies I have, all have the same weird ways about them

All in all, they are just a bit different. I am trusting they will adjust to my system in due course.

Cheers
Phil

Phil that is what Belgium fanciers at sprint to middle distance level want individual pigeons that get out in front and stay in front

Belgium fanciers don't want pigeons that follow the leaders and are of the pace that the reason why they are different because that's

what's breed into them and that's there characteristics

You look at all your champion pigeons they don't follow others they make there own way as they know what they are doing or what is expected of them

and yes they are a little on the big side which I have noticed about this breed but the ones I have handled are light in the hand so they are not carrying much weight

Compared to having large pigeons that carry weight

Hope this helps you Phil

Don Webb wrote:

Phil that is what Belgium fanciers at sprint to middle distance level want individual pigeons  that get out in front and stay in front

Belgium fanciers don't want pigeons that follow the leaders and are of the pace that the reason why they are different because that's

what's breed into them and that's there characteristics

You look at all your champion pigeons they don't follow others they make there own way as they know what they are doing or what is expected of them

and yes they are a little on the big side which I have noticed about this breed but the ones I have handled are light in the hand so they are not carrying much weight

Compared to having large pigeons that carry weight

Hope this helps you Phil

Thank you so much Don,

I have always said "there are two types of racing pigeon, Leaders and Followers" I want a loft full of the Former!

Birds that Lead from the front. I used to have quite a few, until I moved to France and the crazy French shot them all. That was 15 years ago. I am now back in the UK, trying to build myself a new family.

And yes, you are right about the Geerinckx birds, they tend to be a bit bigger, but as you said, light in the hand.

Thanks for your input.

Have a great week.

Phil

blueskylofts wrote:

Don Webb wrote:

Phil that is what Belgium fanciers at sprint to middle distance level want individual pigeons  that get out in front and stay in front

Belgium fanciers don't want pigeons that follow the leaders and are of the pace that the reason why they are different because that's

what's breed into them and that's there characteristics

You look at all your champion pigeons they don't follow others they make there own way as they know what they are doing or what is expected of them

and yes they are a little on the big side which I have noticed about this breed but the ones I have handled are light in the hand so they are not carrying much weight

Compared to having large pigeons that carry weight

Hope this helps you Phil

Thank you so much Don,

I have always said "there are two types of racing pigeon, Leaders and Followers" I want a loft full of the Former!

Birds that Lead from the front.  I used to have quite a few, until I moved to France and the crazy French shot them all.  That was 15 years ago.  I am now back in the UK, trying to build myself a new family.

And yes, you are right about the Geerinckx birds, they tend to be a bit bigger, but as you said, light in the hand.

Thanks for your input.

Have a great week.

Phil

Just happy to help Phil but I Know Nothing mate