Eye sign schooling

I've looked for months on the Web for a tutorial on eye sign. I can find a thing. Having no one to take me to school so to speak....Does anybody have a link for beginners? I'm not worried about my ignorancem but would like to learn a bit on the subject. ( winter reading)
Should I just forget about the subject, because I live apart from other racers?

I did read through the forums archives BEFORE I asked.

links at top of page for jack barkel, but not sure its there anymore.......take a look at this below rom, might be of interest to you.

I'll watch it this evening David. Heading out the door in a minute. Thanks for putting that up!

Jacks are still there just looked

Hi Rom before Jack passed away i was privlidged to be on Jacks private email group this gentleman was full of knowledge not only on eye sign but everything else to do with pigeons i learnt i alot from Jack
Ken

Maybe our Judges could post one eye a week and explain to us what they look for in that eye it doesn't have to be one of their birds just a photo of a eye with information on it this would be a weekly thing something to look forward to each week if they have the time

yes mark, that would be a good idea, might be hard getting someone to do it though....

May be chuda or Don would post one each week one the one week then one the other if they have the time

ive a box full of old pictorials, dating from the 70`s - 80`s, a lot of eye sign articles in them, I think a fancier called belding did some of them.......I might dig them out in future and post parts of it on the forum if we cant get an eye sign member to do it.

That would be great dave to have some one on hand to talk us through the evaluation of the eye

its an option mark, lets see what happens first .....

Think Jack Curtis did some but not sure if it was the pic or the gazette...

Wall Lunt and Green slideshow on youtube is good plus everyone knows their performances,
abit quick though

Darn gentlemen! I believe learning eye sign won't happen over night!
That was absolutely the best explanation that I've seen. Thanks for posting that. I'll have to get a loupe. My eyes aren't what they were. Needless to say I will have to watch that video a few million times very interesting.

Rom. My opinion of eye sign. It is an indicator is all. Many good eye sign birds fail. To breed or race well. Now here is the interesting part. I have some reds that race good. The better ones have a yellow eye. Many have pearl eyes. Occasionally a pearl eye will win. But take note..that is just my familyof birds. Breed performers to performers. Every family is different. There is no magic bullet. Eyesign is an indicator of could be or maybe. Race your birds hard. What is left then evaluate the eyes. After the fact. They have proven something. Keepers not hopefulls.

Im an eye enthuisist i wouldnt say eye sign thats abit misleading and if you need an eye glass i beleive its not a strong enough eye or your short sighted...
Saying that i know its only any good if the pigeon is healthy and in good race condition..
Heart lungs wing and muscles all have there part to play...

Looked at eyes through a loupe for many years. But I am not the brightest bulb on the Xmas tree. Too much work for not good results.

I think you can pick them at a glance...the best ones....you cant pick a winner...a one off winner...but you can a multi performer...anything can pop up once or be a yb winner through luck or keeness
In the 90s i had a bwc yb had 1st club 1st fed 82m appox 2500 birds 1st club 1st fed the second week then 3rd club 11th fed the next...it was crap but a keen yb...never done another thing...went in the bin after its yearling season

It is all a matter of degree. Preferences. Now, going by its performance you electd to cull it after its yearling year. It had already shown you it could perform. It had the drive and motivation. Needed a rest following seaon. Have had similar. Bred off them and most do good. The young birds. Some wipe out. But some very good young also come out of them.

You didnt have to wait for it every week as a yearling lol

Understand.

halcanada wrote:

Rom. My opinion of eye sign. It is an indicator is all. Many good eye sign birds fail. To breed or race well. Now here is the interesting part. I have some reds that race good. The better ones have a yellow eye. Many have pearl eyes. Occasionally a pearl eye will win. But take note..that is just my familyof birds. Breed performers to performers. Every family is different. There is no magic bullet. Eyesign is an indicator of could be or maybe. Race your birds hard. What is left then evaluate the eyes. After the fact. They have proven something. Keepers not hopefulls.

Thanks Hal. I just find it interesting. I'm the sort of guy that will unfortunately only keep the birds who come home fast. I still can't sex a chick, though I still keep trying. I know what your getting at.

fieldwalker wrote:

Im an eye enthuisist i wouldnt say eye sign thats abit misleading and if you need an eye glass i beleive its not a strong enough eye or your short sighted...
Saying that i know its only any good if the pigeon is healthy and in good race condition..
Heart lungs wing and muscles all have there part to play...

We have our annual club meeting Saturday. I'm going to see if some one can show me there. And yes. I AM a little near sighted

Im short sighted ok reading but 10 or so yards i cant read a number plate on a car unless i wear glasses...which i hardly do

friendsloft wrote:

Hi Rom before Jack passed away i was privlidged to be on Jacks private email group this gentleman was full of knowledge not only on eye sign but everything else to do with pigeons i learnt i alot from Jack
Ken

Ken not that I was on his favourite list as such But still remember an email he sent had the bite of a angry bulldog to it etc .
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