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David Oldbird
Posts : 43166 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Vaccine Concerns Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:00 am | |
| well, the first vaccines will be given this week, mainly to elderly people in care homes ........who incidently a lot of them have no family to stand up for them.
the makers of the pfizer have them selves admitted, they do not know how it will effect those who have it, they have admitted it is still experimental, which is very worrying to say the least.
the vaccine has to be keep at -70 or there abouts, why ? i reckon its because its a live vaccine, theres no other reason by what ive read......now if people are injected with a live vaccine can they pass it on to others ?
our government have warned of a third spike, could this third spike be brought about by vaccinating people who then spread it ...? the covid virus certainly isnt as bad as we have been led to believe, is this our governments way of population control ...?
we have a 99.9% survival rate, so people need to think very carefully about having this pfizer vaccine, it seems most peoples immune system is good enough,
our government is pushing a vaccine on us which has been developed in a matter of months, and been accepted by the medical boby who should be taking our health seriously, instead they are in co hoots, and on the pay roll .
worrying times when our own government are wanting rid of us . |
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MISTY Oldbird
Posts : 9024 Join date : 2018-01-28 Age : 89 Location : SCARBOROUGH
| Subject: Re: Vaccine Concerns Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:21 am | |
| Share your concern to a certain extent David.
We know very little of what goes on behind closed doors.
It does appear that this vacine has been produced rather faster than any previously.
As laymen in this matter I think it best to leave it to those in the best position to make decsions, they cannot all be on the pay roll.
It is a nasty little beggar and the sooner dealt with the better.
Regards. |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43166 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: Vaccine Concerns Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:43 am | |
| i agree misty, they arn`t all on the pay roll......but the scientists who are impartial and who do speak out, do not get air time or are not in a position to advise our government .
its seems money and power is at the bottom of the covid scam, like most things . |
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MISTY Oldbird
Posts : 9024 Join date : 2018-01-28 Age : 89 Location : SCARBOROUGH
| Subject: Re: Vaccine Concerns Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:54 am | |
| I agree David the money mad will take advantage of and manipulate any situation for their own ends.
But I also believe in most instances regarding health etc; there are those who do care more for the benifit of all and not money.
If the vacinations go ahead as predicted it will soon become apparent who is right and who is wrong, perhaps a risky business but we cannot sit back and do nothing.
There are also sevaral other vacines on the waiting list, possible the present one has been rushed through before the others were passed for use and safe to get on the band waggon first.
Nasty situation all round David.
Regards. |
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peel bros Oldbird
Posts : 13064 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 59 Location : south shields
| Subject: Re: Vaccine Concerns Mon Dec 07, 2020 6:55 pm | |
| Still not getting it myself, not convinced yet but maybe when I am i will get it , but definitely not yet |
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MISTY Oldbird
Posts : 9024 Join date : 2018-01-28 Age : 89 Location : SCARBOROUGH
| Subject: Re: Vaccine Concerns Mon Dec 07, 2020 8:13 pm | |
| It would mean my wife and myself having to go to York on two occasions to get the vacine and two weeks apart.
Parking impossible within reasonable walking distance in that hospita, whenwe havea hospital within spitting distance.
My wife says " You take your chance or not"
Think I will tarry a while.
Regards. |
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MISTY Oldbird
Posts : 9024 Join date : 2018-01-28 Age : 89 Location : SCARBOROUGH
| Subject: Re: Vaccine Concerns Mon Dec 07, 2020 8:13 pm | |
| It would mean my wife and myself having to go to York on two occasions to get the vacine and two weeks apart.
Parking impossible within reasonable walking distance in that hospital, when we have a hospital within spitting distance it does not make much sense.
My wife says " You take your chance or not"
Think I will tarry a while.
Regards. |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43166 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: Vaccine Concerns Mon Dec 07, 2020 8:48 pm | |
| got to be a live vaccine misty, thats why -70 .......plus you have to wait for so long before you can come home, incase of adverse reactions . the oxford vaccine which is still being trialed does sound a lot better and no -70 when you think the pfizer vaccine has been tested on healthy people, what could it do to people with underlying illnesses etc doris johnson and gang are very danergous |
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Knackered Oldbird
Posts : 14480 Join date : 2013-03-11
| Subject: Re: Vaccine Concerns Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:49 pm | |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43166 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
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MISTY Oldbird
Posts : 9024 Join date : 2018-01-28 Age : 89 Location : SCARBOROUGH
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Knackered Oldbird
Posts : 14480 Join date : 2013-03-11
| Subject: Re: Vaccine Concerns Tue Dec 08, 2020 9:02 pm | |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43166 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: Vaccine Concerns Tue Dec 08, 2020 9:59 pm | |
| " final solution " wasnt that another genocide ...? |
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MISTY Oldbird
Posts : 9024 Join date : 2018-01-28 Age : 89 Location : SCARBOROUGH
| Subject: Re: Vaccine Concerns Tue Dec 08, 2020 10:32 pm | |
| Just hope all the doubters are proven wrong or we will be in real trouble. Have great respect for those who are willing to try it out.
Would not be in the least suprized if China did not have something up their sleeve.
Regards. |
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peel bros Oldbird
Posts : 13064 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 59 Location : south shields
| Subject: Re: Vaccine Concerns Wed Dec 09, 2020 2:23 pm | |
| Heard a rumour today that some have taken ill after getting it , i don't believe that but you never know but this is the kind of thing that worries me...if I don't get the vaccine its my choice and I will suffer the consequences yes but I am just not ready yet ..I want to wait a few weeks or so to see if everyone is OK |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43166 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: Vaccine Concerns Wed Dec 09, 2020 2:48 pm | |
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MISTY Oldbird
Posts : 9024 Join date : 2018-01-28 Age : 89 Location : SCARBOROUGH
| Subject: Re: Vaccine Concerns Wed Dec 09, 2020 4:23 pm | |
| - peel bros wrote:
- Heard a rumour today that some have taken ill after getting it , i don't believe that but you never know but this is the kind of thing that worries me...if I don't get the vaccine its my choice and I will suffer the consequences yes but I am just not ready yet ..I want to wait a few weeks or so to see if everyone is OK
Yes, a lot of rumours doing the rounds, you never know realy which is right and which people are just throwing a spanner in the works. I am in the same mind as you, play a waiting for a while, little selfish maybe but thats how I feel. Regards. |
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peel bros Oldbird
Posts : 13064 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 59 Location : south shields
| Subject: Re: Vaccine Concerns Wed Dec 09, 2020 4:55 pm | |
| Selfish yes but wait till the guinea pigs are done first then see what happens. I am in no rush to get it just yet . |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43166 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: Vaccine Concerns Wed Dec 09, 2020 5:47 pm | |
| this is just the second phase of trials, difference is they are testing it on people with underlying illnesses, plus not paying them .
its very strange doctors are saying, the vaccine will not stop people getting the virus,nor stop people transmitting it ........
sowhats the pointin having it ? |
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MISTY Oldbird
Posts : 9024 Join date : 2018-01-28 Age : 89 Location : SCARBOROUGH
| Subject: Re: Vaccine Concerns Wed Dec 09, 2020 7:23 pm | |
| What worries me a little is, no one knows the long term possible problems and if we keep on vacinating and things do go wrong it will leave us in a more vulnerable position.
Me thinks a better proposition would be to just vacinate a number from each section according to circumstancs and see if it works or not.
If you rush in the dark there is a possibility you will never see the light.
Regards. |
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peel bros Oldbird
Posts : 13064 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 59 Location : south shields
| Subject: Re: Vaccine Concerns Wed Dec 09, 2020 8:38 pm | |
| Totally, totally agree david , when I say that to people I get slated for it . They think I am just causing trouble or whatever, but like you I have my doubts and why should we trust these people, they have lied from day one or have I got that wrong as well . I am thick but not that thick to see through these liars |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43166 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: Vaccine Concerns Wed Dec 09, 2020 9:11 pm | |
| this is exactly why any new vaccines need to be trialed for a minimun of 5 - 7 years .......thats the minimum .
anything rushed through in 7 - 8 months has got to be looked upon with caution .
our government have made a total mess of immigration, and brexit, plus many other things, why would we expect anything different from a bunch of fools re covid . |
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MISTY Oldbird
Posts : 9024 Join date : 2018-01-28 Age : 89 Location : SCARBOROUGH
| Subject: Re: Vaccine Concerns Wed Dec 09, 2020 9:21 pm | |
| I feel the most important qualfication to be an MP is to be able to lie through your teeth and abandon every desirable principle along with being a yes man/woman.
But having followed this matter I think there has been much Fake News and even more mischief makers attempting to unrail the attempt to deal with a very serious matter for personal reasons.
That is not to say there has not been mistakes made.
Easy to make comments based on unsubstanciated news.
Regards. |
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halcanada81 Hatchling
Posts : 830 Join date : 2020-04-22
| Subject: Re: Vaccine Concerns Wed Dec 09, 2020 9:27 pm | |
| Vaccine approved today. Canada has 7 more companies signed up also. So will be a choice, Immigration. Canada looking for 1.3 million immigrants next 3 years. Skilled, semi-skilled prefered. All must pass a test. Knowledge of English etc,. |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43166 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: Vaccine Concerns Wed Dec 09, 2020 9:36 pm | |
| this is an experiment... they are testing it on the most vunerable! |
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