winners and eyesign

Here's something to look at if you like eyesign, plenty different eyes, colours circles, whatever floats your boat, so what's different in these eyes to all the duds? Not a clue myself, but all big winners at the end of the day.

Also spot the photo mistake on there...........

looks like the same eye for the pied and cheq

think the cree gives it away

George & Morgan wrote:

think the cree gives it away

Cree looked up my bible here George on that one etc still lost I'm by what my bible said here type thing End of the day     interesting lot of photos in certain ways, but then somehow rather worrying also in certain other ways I'm from my perspective down here.

cere white skin round the eye

All the eyes are different George, the cere may be similar which is bound happen at times but the
rest of the eye is different.

This selection of eyes proves winners have good bad and indifferent eyes according to the theory.

The only eye of any real quality according to the theory is the pigeon on the right of the first two.

Regards.

are we talking about the same thing misty Darren said 2 eyes were the same eye and i said yes look at the cere

oldstrain wrote:

looks like the same eye for the pied and cheq

that's correct Darren      

i get what you meant george, 3 o clock area gives it away

did i get members mixed up

George & Morgan wrote:

are we talking  about the same thing misty  Darren said 2 eyes were the same eye and i said yes look at the cere

Yes we are talking about the same thing George and I have got mixed up and jumped the gun, bad mistake.

Actually missed the first two pigeons both with good eyes according to the theory, first two on the photograph and the one below the right one.

Had a good look at what you say regarding the same eye George.

Would be a suprize to get two eyes so alike but one thing I feel it is not the same photograph used.

Apologise for jumping the gun old age and poverty.


Regards.

i like the eye of the bird named dominic the best but never followed eyesign to be honest

Got the very first book on eye sign, delved into it and eventually got bogged down when it became obvious some of the very best racers had nothing to shout about regarding eye sign,the same applies today.

They come in all shapes and sizes and eyes from excellent to usless regarding eye sign theory..

Doubt if I would have spotted the two same eyes as I did not think them my type
and overlooked them both.

Makes one wonder if a bit of air brushing takes place.

What I do like to see is a nice clear white cere.

One thing the eye can tell you is the health of the pigeon.

Otherwise the best theory I found eventually was Mr Basket.

Did enjoy all the discussions with the late Albert Whity, Skarthi, and Pete Rogers
passed many enjoyable evenings kicking matters about.

So as far as I am concerned the main thing is that the pigeon has two eyes that work.

Regards.

Anyone interested in eye sign could do worse than have a good look at the eyes on pages 6.7.8 in this weeks BHW, these are the type of eye I prefered and found in the Ardens.

Regards.

MISTY wrote:

Anyone interested in eye sign could do worse than have a good look at the eyes on pages 6.7.8 in this weeks BHW, these are the type of eye I prefered and found  in the Ardens.

Regards.

Had a short love affair here Misty back when with a lovely Van Arden type hen, when the imports first hit town down here after many years of our border being closed to pigeons. 50/50 thing with my Geordie mate total dud I'm   But boy oh boy did it have a beautiful set of eyes     like most of them that were up for auction at the time.

MISTY wrote:

Got the very first book on eye sign, delved into it and eventually got bogged down when it became obvious some of the very best racers had nothing to shout about regarding eye sign,the same applies today.

They come in all shapes and sizes and eyes from excellent to usless regarding eye sign theory..

Doubt if I would have spotted the two same eyes as I  did not think them my type
and overlooked them both.

Makes one wonder if a bit of air brushing takes place.

What I do like to see is a nice clear white cere.

One thing the eye can tell you is the health of the pigeon.

Otherwise the best theory I found eventually was Mr Basket.

Did enjoy all the discussions with the late Albert Whity, Skarthi, and Pete Rogers
passed many enjoyable evenings kicking matters about.

So as far as I am concerned the main thing is that the pigeon has two eyes that work.

Regards.  

 

Agree waste your time on eye sign if you wish I say free country type thing but who thou off the expert types with the knowledge factor (whatever that is) would have somehow picked out as an example our group of U/N Combine winners shown here when first out of the nest or even maybe before they first hit the training track etc to race. Truth be told I suggest     many may have come a knocking I suspect, after the event & somehow given a glowing fantasy type report card maybe by the eyes the birds had   as the single reason perhaps for what the birds did.

i'm getting worse  thought i posted this

this is the eye of the new hen misty taken by my son so not the best

Been to the NEHU show today, really good show and well attended on a lousy day.
Plenty of eyes to look at
and have to say those show birds are amazing to see the condition on them.

Tempted to buy but decided there's enough here already. Plenty fanciers would have done ok today, saw plenty birds making £30 in auction right through to £1800 in the pens with basket fulls priced in between. Only bought some nest felts and pie & chips so cheap day out for me inside away from the rain.

Only attended the NEHU Show once barnie.

Looked at one line of cages and commented that who put them in a show must be mad.

Turned out they were all Up North Combine Winners.

Never went again.

Regards.

barnie wrote:

Been to the NEHU show today, really good show and well attended on a lousy day.
Plenty of eyes to look at
and have to say those show birds are amazing to see the condition on them.

Tempted to buy but decided there's enough here already. Plenty fanciers would have done ok today, saw plenty birds making £30 in auction right through to £1800 in the pens with basket fulls priced in between. Only bought some nest felts and pie & chips   so cheap day out for me inside away from the rain.

Glad you apparently had an enjoyable day out etc Colin End of the day we all have faults I suggest, I'm     so dont judge yourself to harshly over the pie & chips issue there etc  .

MISTY wrote:

Only attended the NEHU Show once barnie.

Looked at one line of cages and commented that who put them in a show must be mad.

Turned out they were all Up North Combine Winners.

Never went again.

Regards.

Egg on face moments in a pigeon sense, always as bit of a reality type check I found down here Misty .

MISTY wrote:

All the eyes are different George, the cere may be similar which is bound happen at times but the
rest of the eye is different.

This selection of eyes proves winners have good bad and indifferent eyes according to the theory.

The only eye of any real quality according to the theory is the pigeon on the right of the first two.

Regards.

Intriguing part for me down  here I'm when looking at the overall picture of all the winners is the sad story being told there from my perspective of what I was first told down here 30 odd years ago was apparently the Mighty Up North Combine type thing by my Geordie mate at the time. Now, those that may be confused here with my thinking study the first bird shown as an example & perhaps tell me what sad story does it maybe send there, for what was once the Mighty Up North Combine as such apparently.

Knackered wrote:

MISTY wrote:

All the eyes are different George, the cere may be similar which is bound happen at times but the
rest of the eye is different.

This selection of eyes proves winners have good bad and indifferent eyes according to the theory.

The only eye of any real quality according to the theory is the pigeon on the right of the first two.

Regards.

Intriguing part for me down  here I'm when looking at the overall picture of all the winners is the sad story being told there from my perspective of what I was first told down here 30 odd years ago was apparently the Mighty Up North Combine type thing by my Geordie mate at the time. Now, those that may be confused here with

my thinking study the first bird shown as an example & perhaps tell
me what sad story does it maybe send there, for what was once the Mighty Up North Combine as such apparently.

Noted that Knackered, not enough for a decent club race.

Unfortunately the only races with large numbers are the OL races, well until the mile stage.

Just glad I had the best years in the sport.

SAD

Regards.



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we know all eyes are different misty but we still look at them hoping we have a pigeon with a pleasing eye

[quote="George & Morgan"]we know all eyes are different misty but we still look at them hoping

Tis a fad George like many other things in our sport.

But whatever turns you on.

For myself eventually just made sure they had two that were bright and healthy.

Seen pigeons with one bulls eye and the other clear and a mixture of everything.

All amongst the winners.

Regards.