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hi ian , yes i only fly in the NFC no club racing they get trained up by me up to 60 miles
then straight in the first NFC race what will be 204 miles to me fourgers and the lonest race
will be tarbes 580 miles its a tough race programe for them but what your left with is only the best
and some times you suffer big losses and it seem like you taking one step forward and two steps back
since 2004 ive been in the top 10 in section D 4 times that covers all cornwall and devon and part of somerset
up to bridgewater my higest section position was 4th from saintes getting 266 in the open .

sorry to butt in but well done,excellent flying

excellent flying the longest race i fly is bourges 571 miles really enjoy the long races

thanks lads , what do you think is best for the longer races natural or w/hood
ive been flying natural but toying with the idea of w/hood for this comming season
that will take my team down to 12 if i do .

natural for the longest

not sure i fly them widowhood but was thinking on trying the channel team natural , have won many times tho on widowhood and many positions

ive heard of some top flyers racing them natural for the distance and doing very well.....so i suppose if you do it right ie method/management etc they can be just as good or sometimes better as those flown widowhood

one time people would race distance races on widowhood only natural,i think widowhood is ok up to maybe 400 and odd,but the extreme distance natural,epecially bad forcasts

i think either way would get good results its getting the pigeon right that counts, you could say by pairing up and racing natural would take a lot out of them before they go as widowhood they get piece and quiet what do you think

as far as i know natural is all about getting them in the right condition at the right time, ie eggs chipping or ybs at so many days old........or even maybe a cock driving a hen to nest maybe ???

but surely a widowhood cock would be in better condition than a natural one

natural birds for the channel where paired up a lot later than the widowhood ones ian,when i raced the distance races mine where on eggs or a big young un and it did,nt take too much out of them as they where not raced as hard as we do today,just a few races then a middle distance race then they were ready

ah right something i have never done natural always raced widowhood

its amazing how easy you can get your natural birds in condition,plus you can not beat keen hens or a cock sitting eggs and feeding a big young un.when i was 12th out of bouges cock was like that

do widowhood cocks come into condition for a certain length of time or can they stay in condition for the full season ?

Hi there my name is matthew like me screen name lol my work is selfemployed run my own company or try to anyways i sell ets for a company but didnt join this site for publicity just advice, my hobbies are football and carp fishing but as the weather is like this aint done much of that this winter. Just like to say hi to everyone

hi mathew carp fishing was my hobby till 2009 when i started with pigeons, ets info will come in handy for members mate

do you race pigeons then matthew

yes and we might get discount steve

yes welcome to the site, Im still on a clock ets might be coming this year advice welcome.

sorry for this reply but no i dont race pigeons and advice i can give but its upto individuals what they prefer

hi steve just strated carp fishing about 2 years ago now my record at the mo is 20lb mirror and that was caught on bait i made so a good catch and a proud one for me

what system do you sell mathew i use the unikon system

advice will be good as well thanks

where i go locally normally 8 to 16 pound but a few 36+ biggest ive had 24 on cheddar cheese, better than luncheon meat at local lake