What breeds are everyone racing?

Hi chaps, well I also have van den bosche janssens and these are my best this year, I gifted 2 birds earlier this year for the fire auction on the other forum and the chap has won with them, both flew the programe for him. So they are not too bad. Yes david pos tsome info.

You will not beat the janssen pigeons they are in almost everything that races

yes don, a lot of breeds/strains now are based on the janssens arnt they.......

DAVID wrote:

look impressive birds you have there, some of the breeds/strains ive heard of and they are doing well by all accounts......some are new to me but im sure you have done your homework on them, hope they do well for you. by the way, whats the one more purchasegoing to be ?

The final bird will be a daughter of Curtis, wall, lunt & Green's pigeon named 'Grey Gem' providing we can agree on the price

Yes your right David

If you follow the belgium flyers all they want is the top performance pigeons regardless of breed

i agree don, once im racing again i want to just keep and breed from the ones that do the best racing, hopefully winners......lol

just breed from the best david,proven birds once you have tried them.

yes thanks littlehen, myself i think its better to breed best to best as its the easiest method and most straight forward for me.......others might have their own thoughts/methods.....

Everyone has there own ideas but it's you choice at the end of the day mate it's what makes you happy

But sometimes even the gut feeling can help also

you do your own thing

I agree with you Ian

after all only you spend the time with your birds

so only yourself know what they are capable of

Spot on there mate

always been a fascinating topic this, what do you pair to get a real quality racer?

best to best is always banded about, and to be honest sounds the right way to go, but we have over the years had soon outstanding racers who have won out of turn but could not breed a stump!!

literally after 3/4 yrs trying (nothing)

and then again you have had that yearling which didnt do anything special as a youngster but you like the look of him/her and BANG....first nest 2 x winners

wonderful/challenging hobby this of ours

Lightning McQueen wrote:

always been a fascinating topic this, what do you pair to get a real quality racer?

best to best is always banded about, and to be honest sounds the right way to go, but we have over the years had soon outstanding racers who have won out of turn but could not breed a stump!!

literally after 3/4 yrs trying (nothing)

and then again you have had that yearling which didnt do anything special as a youngster but you like the look of him/her and BANG....first nest 2 x winners

wonderful/challenging hobby this of ours

hi lightening mc, what do you base your selections on when choosing your pairs for breeding then.......if as you say you are not convinced with the best to best theory what is it you go on? have you any thoughts on eyesign or any other theory ?

hard question, to be honest i go on my own personal choice, ie just that gut feeling that you would like to try some youngsters of this cock with that hen, dont know why but just do (if that makes sense)

then size - big male little hen to try to keep them as medium as possible.

then family - try and keep certain birds in the perentage on both sides

then eye - a really strong eye with a lesser eye again to try and get the happy medium of a dual purpose eye which can both race & breed

then colour - the tale of two differing eyes colours

As they say "opposites attract"

hi lightening, i agree with you re big cock little hen etc....i seem to have some fairly big hens which to be honest dont seem to breed nice ybs, i prefer a slightly smaller hen (the best ybs i bred for someone else where off a small hen) last year i based my pairings on oposite colour eyes and dark to light eyes but they produced worse ybs than the ones i didnt pair by this method......what do you think of pairing a pearl eye to a pearl eye ?

to be honest dont think it matters (look at the old janssen birds, majority had the white eyes) and it didnt stop them from founding probably the most sucessful family to date

imo as long as one is a strong eye and the other a lesser colours dont really come into it

hi mark, when you say strong and weak eye, what do you interperate as either.......when i pair i do as you do and pair a weaker eye to a stronger eye but how i term strong and weak is by the iris, im not too bothered about anything else.....its just my way of doing it and it might not suit everyone but like i say the iris to me is more inportant for breeding than the 2nd circle.....

DITTO

it may not be as the experts term it but it works for us

mark, ive been interested in eyes since we raced years ago and at the time i read everything i could about it and was convinced it was for real......now i just follow my own thoughts on it because all these so called experts say the same thing and spout a lot of meaningless rubbish. all they do is describe what they see parrot fashion but rarely commit themselves and pradict how the bird will perform.....im not saying the odd few dont get results but it makes you wonder if it is actually down to eyesign and if they would have won anyway...