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PostSubject: Line breeding/Inbreeding ?   Mon Oct 17, 2011 5:21 pm

might sound a silly question but whats the difference between line breeding and inbreeding............. scratch
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PostSubject: line breeding/in breeeding   Mon Oct 17, 2011 7:23 pm

David on google there is a bit on line breeding by Dave shewmaker i may read it to morrow with in breeding i found the the birds to be short in the body
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PostSubject: Re: Line breeding/Inbreeding ?   Mon Oct 17, 2011 7:38 pm

thanks george.........
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PostSubject: Re: Line breeding/Inbreeding ?   Mon Oct 17, 2011 8:37 pm

line breeding...and in breeding are the same thing...i prefare to just call it line breeding...used to do quite a bit of it myself with some of the exibition birds i bred...it can be useful...but if not done correctly,also has its down sides...infertility etc.
i know most people try to use the like of grandfather/granddaughter pairings and so on..but a guy i know,who knows quite alot on genetics and line breeding,told me once that the least closely related line breeding is actually brother/sister matings.
and when you think about it...g/father g/daughter pr ings...you are basicly using the same genes on one side of the family...but with brother/sister..you are actually using genes from both sides of the cock and hen.
not something you would do on a regular basis...i did do it once,and produced the best ever pr of young i ever bred.

found this on pigeon line breeding..

http://www.pigeonracingpigeon.com/2009/12/26/pigeonbreeding-correct-line-breeding-fixing-champion-blood/
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PostSubject: Re: Line breeding/Inbreeding ?   Mon Oct 17, 2011 8:57 pm

hi birdlady, thanks for that info....this season i paired brother to sister, it wasnt a pairing which i planned but as they were both already paired up from being ybs and were both spare i just left them to it.............out of 4 ybs off of them only one is still in my loft, the other three were fly aways as ybs when settling them, so i dont know if this is because they were so closely bred or just because ybs do get lost like this while settling.

the bird i have left is typical of the breed but in my opinion doesnt have the same feather quality and feel of the parents, altho if i have no better mates for them i will leave them togeather and try race the offspring this time as this season i didnt get the chance.
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PostSubject: Re: Line breeding/Inbreeding ?   Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:07 pm

feather quality can be an issue with line breeding..i dont really know about feather types on pigeons, YET...lol
am hoping once i get a bit of spare time to start looking into pigeon genetics a bit more...find the genetics end of breeding very interesting.
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PostSubject: Re: Line breeding/Inbreeding ?   Wed Oct 19, 2011 12:35 am

my unlcle allways line bred and inbred and thats why the family is still close net after 59 years he had the pigoens now we are doing the same with our pigeons. taking a cross in and trying them out but allways cross back in to the richie/white stock.


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PostSubject: Re: Line breeding/Inbreeding ?   Wed Oct 19, 2011 7:17 am

David wrote:
might sound a silly question but whats the difference between line breeding and inbreeding............. scratch

david try reading the jassen book i think that sums it up in great detail sorry i dont have the book now otherwise i would have sent you it they used to line breed but bring in a X which they state was very important
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PostSubject: line breeding/in breeeding   Wed Oct 19, 2011 7:44 am

David at first you would think it was just take a bird and breed down from it were in fact you do need to know what you are talking about and if it is worth all the trouble. if you do go ahead good luck
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PostSubject: Re: Line breeding/Inbreeding ?   Wed Oct 19, 2011 5:11 pm

i george, i dont really base any pairings on how closely related they are, obviously i wouldnt purposely choose to put brother to sister etc but closely related birds like uncle/niece, auntie/nephew etc would be ok by me..........
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PostSubject: Difference between Line Breeding and In Breeding   Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:11 pm

The subtle difference between line breeding and in Breeding is that with line breeding you can develop your own strain of pigeons but with inbreeding you cannot as you will have many different strains in your loft even within the same family of birds.
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PostSubject: Re: Line breeding/Inbreeding ?   Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:14 pm

hi kev, so if you wanted to breed along the lines of say, a cock who had won half a dozen 1sts, which way would you go about it.....?
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PostSubject: line breeding/in breeeding   Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:11 pm

i was hoping Gary was back on site so i could find out more about 1 cock bird paired to 4 hens = 28 YB could it also be said that line breeding and in breeding could be done at the same time and also has anyone ever tried this type of pairing as i had never heard of it before maybe he could tell us more about it
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PostSubject: Re: Line breeding/Inbreeding ?   Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:25 pm

he sometimes comes on site late george, im sure he will explain when he reads your post......
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PostSubject: line breeding/in breeeding   Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:31 pm

one of the things i would like to know do you get more fertile eggs if you have only one cock bird to 4 hens
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