Inbreeding, any good?

Bought a couple of good birds a few years ago at the NEHU show, left with a cock and hen off the pair, so brother and sister, was considering pairing them up but have now decided not to after speaking to Ray, but was curious any ones thoughts on the matter and if anyone has been down this route, what was the quality of the young 'uns?

seen a lot about this on sites all negative with it, only father & daughter, or mother & son, all against brother & sister

i put the old cock on with his daughter last year got one off him just to keap his bloodline as hes 15 now and the cock i got off him is a cracker will just keap for crossing in with other bloodlines have never tried brother and sister but my late uncle did this quite alot and got good distance birds from this but you really have to know what your doing

same here dont like to inbreed if i must then ill miss a generation

I must say i have done my fare share of inbreeding and with some good results, but always mother and son father daughter. To me sisters and brothers bring out recessive qualities, bad points and faults as well as good points and positives, so would personaly not do it, but hey who knows. If I knew the family wasnt already inbed I would try it as an experiement.

I have put father to daughter ,mother to son this year i have put one pairing brother to sister, like people have said this pairing will bring out the bad points aswell as the good, but it is away of going back too the original bloodline, i will race the young to see if they reach the mark even take young of them if no good them will dispose just my thought
Ken

ive only went father to grandaughter and mother to grandson,

hi ken hows the birds doing with ya

Hi John spot on should be moving some over in aday or two, the two for Bluewhiteflight for the exchange have just been rung as he wanted these to be later, so all in all very pleased how are ur birds doing John
Ken

Hi i only like to inbreed like this for birds to go in to the breeding loft

to maintain a blood line , for racing i like to cross them with compatible birds .

never had much success racing inbreed ones but have had good breeding results when using them to cross

did have brother and sister pairing last year, not by choice but because they had no other mate.....bred a yb that looked lovely but as far as i know didnt race very well, altho looking thro some pedigrees of my janssens half brother and sister pairings bred some good 1st prize winners....

yes david I have used half brother and sister, and had some good birds out, only thing is you have to have ood birds to do this. They then tend to resemble eachother a lot in type. but if the birds are un tried racers and breeders, I would say no benifit.

hi martyn, you have simmilar janssens to mine havnt you, how have they done racing for you ? i saw some from the same lines for sale in the bhw last week and the man had won club and fed etc with them.......

:DHi David.. well last year I crossed out all my janssens and was very happy with the birds. The crosses were slightly longer distance strain, for this year I have selected to put them back together again. I will be selecting very harshly at the end of this year and will start inbreeding a little next year but I have to be sure they are good ones first, before I do that.

Not sure of this but if you want to keep the blood of tip pigeons you could put brother and sister together, but the youngsters would be only good for the stock loft as breeders then use them to out cross

spot on DON.
with this pairing of brother X sister.
you will not improve the young.
all you are doing is to preserve the blood lines.
but at the end of the day they have to come from the BEST.
blood lines.
it;s a safe way of preserving your stock.

not a done thing here dont like to do it ,its a no no for me

Ian would you not do it to keep the winning blood strong in ur breeding loft
Ken

yes ken thats what i would say its the only way

if you say it works then yes i probably would but not so direct as brother and sister

same hear no good for me as well

Hi john like you said it is the only way ive done it this year to keep it going i have sons and daughters in my stock loft, but by putting brother to sister it keeps the blood stronger and can then be crossed back into the family
Ken

its an idea worth trying to replace good old stock birds to keep family blood in stock, never done it myself though

yes never looked at it that way

yes ken thats right that why the old cock hes dubble inbred to stormqueen and thats why my uncle did it to keap stormqueens lines going for so long and thats what i have done put him to a duaghter as hes geting on now 15