supercrack breed

anyone have them r heard bout them, know any info about them .

no sorry dublin 40, never heard of them............

maybe someone else might have.

Dave Valantine advertises them in the weekly books

hi don, what exactly are these then, are they a mix of breeds or just one mans own blood line .....?

Super crake is the only pigeon in the 60's to win 3 belguim national he was a blue cock and he was then paired with everything in belguim

ah right, thanks for that don.......so is there a family named after him ? and are they distance birds.?

The pigeon was called supercrack and it was that name which was used to create the breed

If i am correct they were a long distance breed but quote me if i am wrong mate

They were distance Busschaerts. If memory serves me right. Supercrack was bred by Mons Hovaert.

Gary did not know they had Busschaerts something new

George Busschaert was an extremely wealthy fancier, who bought many outstanding birds. My mentor, who was actually my god father. raced busschaerts successfully for many years. What he did not know about Georges Busschaert was not worth knowing. Busschaert also had another famous pigeon called The crack. Over here in the UK, it was Larkin and Corbett who had some outstanding Busschaerts from these lines.

Gary Burgess wrote:

George Busschaert was an extremely wealthy fancier, who bought many outstanding birds. My mentor, who was actually my god father. raced busschaerts successfully for many years. What he did not know about Georges Busschaert was not worth knowing. Busschaert also had another famous pigeon called The crack. Over here in the UK, it was Larkin and Corbett who had some outstanding Busschaerts from these lines.

Gary my good freind Barry Nicklin was a close freind to Tom Larkins and exchanged pigeons every year with him, George Corbett raced here in the midlands area with very little success then he obtained the busscharts then moved north to were he became famous
I saw george about 10 years back at the old commarades show he returned into the pigeon game but had show birds and was showing at the time the reason for knowing this i was stewarding him as he placed his birds in the required pen

Must say Larkins had the best of the Busscharts Tom also race well himself with them remember the 3 muskerteeres 3 cheq cocks gary

dublin40 wrote:

anyone have them r heard bout them, know any info about them .

do you mean the supercrak crusons winner of 3x french national and well placed in the internationls plus other good turns
ian axe sells the family

yes bought them off axe lofts he said there are know to distance up to 900 mile.supercrack was a mealy

sorry don he was a blue.yr right

no worries mate

Don Webb wrote:

Super crake is the only pigeon in the 60's to win 3 belguim national he was a blue cock and he was then paired with everything in belguim

the super crak crusons won 3 french nationals and a lot of international positions
the family was made up of local frech pigeons some say they had a lot of the old sion blood in them they certainly had no buschart blood in them but buschaert might have had some of their blood the cruson was sold to robert venus along with others from the family and thats where most got the blood from he was an outstanding racer and plenty won well with the cruson blood crossed into their own distance familys
venus crossed the cruson into many top familys he owned hope this helps all the best sean

Don Webb wrote:

Super crake is the only pigeon in the 60's to win 3 belguim national he was a blue cock and he was then paired with everything in belguim

the super crak won out of turn either the late 70s or early 80s my memoury aint as good as it was and it was french nationals not belg

David wrote:

hi don, what exactly are these then, are they a mix of breeds or just one mans own blood line .....?

David they where local french pigeons it was said they had a lot of the old sion blood in them not sure how true but the old gent who owned them made them into his own family the cruson was the best by far

Gary Burgess wrote:

They were distance Busschaerts. If memory serves me right. Supercrack was bred by Mons Hovaert.

there was no buscheart blood in the supercrak family they where a local french family with a lot of sion in them robert venus bought the the supercrak cruson and others of the family and crossed them into other familys with great sucsess

thats for info lads i bought a pair 2 blues at dublin show,he said he will be at blackpool ian axe lofts

Your right they were Sion, which were put into the Busschaerts. The three musketeers, I remember them well. As well as the goldmine pairings. A few good good fanciers continued this line and brought in other outcrosses of Fauconnier and Dordin. These were outstanding crosses and dominated the Northwest and North pigeon scene for many years.
But they did certainly set the standard for today's pigeons.

Gary Burgess wrote:

Your right they were Sion, which were put into the Busschaerts. The three musketeers, I remember them well. As well as the goldmine pairings. A few good good fanciers continued this line and brought in other outcrosses of Fauconnier and Dordin. These were outstanding crosses and dominated the Northwest and North pigeon scene for many years.
But they did certainly set the standard for today's pigeons.

george corbett was a good fancier before he took the buschearts in he had a top class dutch long distance family the krauths

You right mate and everything you say is spot on. 'A good fancier before he took the Busschaerts in.'
I think George Cobett would have been one hell of a good fancier, with any breed of pigeon. In my neck of the woods, his strain of Busschaerts were legendary.
His success was in his breeding and the success, that came, was via other fanciers.
Yes Krauths. the Black Bombers.
The pigeon world is like anything else, it moves on.
The Busschaerts in the seventies, were outstanding.
Now many fail to make the grade. You only have to look at fanciers in the Northern Ireland and see what breeds they are now flying.
But in all honesty a good fancier can do well with any strain of birds. A fancier, without a strict regime, dedication and education in pigeons, will in all fairness never do good with the best strain of pigeons.

Gary Burgess wrote:

You right mate and everything you say is spot on. 'A good fancier before he took the Busschaerts in.'
I think George Cobett would have been one hell of a good fancier, with any breed of pigeon. In my neck of the woods, his strain of Busschaerts were legendary.
His success was in his breeding and the success, that came, was via other fanciers.
Yes Krauths. the Black Bombers.
The pigeon world is like anything else, it moves on.
The Busschaerts in the seventies, were outstanding.
Now many fail to make the grade. You only have to look at fanciers in the Northern Ireland and see what breeds they are now flying.
But in all honesty a good fancier can do well with any strain of birds. A fancier, without a strict regime, dedication and education in pigeons, will in all fairness never do good with the best strain of pigeons.

when george had the sale with the krauths and buscearts later that night his house was broken into
at his final sale all his buscearts where sold except 3 that he took to Orkney with him as he could not guarantee they would fill 1 was the coppi ck what was the 2 hens they all filled in orkney

That is funny because when George lived in the midlands he could match the fanciers in the midlands, plus George told me himself when he sold his pigeons he did it privately so i am a bit confused