Young Bird Racing

What do the members think, do you really have to race Young birds or can you just train train train and end up with a team of old birds that can compete???

Steve you dont havr to race youngbirds in the year they were born but as long as you train them well from at least 60 miles and basket them like you would for a race keeping thewm in the basket over night then they will be fine

There was a fancier to the name of Norman Westwood of Bilston and he was one of the best widowhood flyers in the midlands and he never raced his young cocks only trained them but trained them well

ive done both raced and just trained them but i think they need a couple of races
really just to give them that experence of the transporter .

Don Webb wrote:

Steve you dont havr to race youngbirds in the year they were born but as long as you train them well from at least 60 miles and basket them like you would for a race keeping thewm in the basket over night then they will be fine

There was a fancier to the name of Norman Westwood of Bilston and he was one of the best widowhood flyers in the midlands and he never raced his young cocks only trained them but trained them well

good fancier mate and he also topped the midland national as well too

i like mine to go at least a 100mls racing but if you dont train them well in the year of their birth they will disappear like snow off a dyke on a hot summers day
sean

i think its best to give them 3 races minimum in their year of birth for the exsperience but distance birds are a different ball game but must be trained well as yer not realy looking for um to show until 2 year old but sprinters need to have the exsperience of clearing the transporter and orientateing very quickly as sprint races are won at the race point jmo

seanl wrote:

i like mine to go at least a 100mls racing but if you dont train them well in the year of their birth they will disappear like snow off a dyke on a hot summers day
sean

Spot on Sean

fletch wrote:

Don Webb wrote:

Steve you dont havr to race youngbirds in the year they were born but as long as you train them well from at least 60 miles and basket them like you would for a race keeping thewm in the basket over night then they will be fine

There was a fancier to the name of Norman Westwood of Bilston and he was one of the best widowhood flyers in the midlands and he never raced his young cocks only trained them but trained them well

good fancier mate and he also topped the midland national as well too

Yes Lee that was from Angoleme mate

oldstrain wrote:

i think its best to give them 3 races minimum in their year of birth for the exsperience but distance birds are a different ball game but must be trained well as yer not realy looking for um to show until 2 year old but sprinters need to have the exsperience of clearing the transporter and orientateing very quickly as sprint races are won at the race point jmo

You have a point there Daz about the sprint birds

Don Webb wrote:

fletch wrote:

Don Webb wrote:

Steve you dont havr to race youngbirds in the year they were born but as long as you train them well from at least 60 miles and basket them like you would for a race keeping thewm in the basket over night then they will be fine

There was a fancier to the name of Norman Westwood of Bilston and he was one of the best widowhood flyers in the midlands and he never raced his young cocks only trained them but trained them well

good fancier mate and he also topped the midland national as well too

Yes Lee that was from Angoleme mate

cheers mate didnt know racepoint

fletch wrote:

Don Webb wrote:

fletch wrote:

Don Webb wrote:

Steve you dont havr to race youngbirds in the year they were born but as long as you train them well from at least 60 miles and basket them like you would for a race keeping thewm in the basket over night then they will be fine

There was a fancier to the name of Norman Westwood of Bilston and he was one of the best widowhood flyers in the midlands and he never raced his young cocks only trained them but trained them well

good fancier mate and he also topped the midland national as well too

Yes Lee that was from Angoleme mate

cheers mate didnt know racepoint

Think it was 1996 and thew best part about it he never saw the pigeon come as he walked in the house for something Johnny Bradley was waiting also and it was John who timed the pigeon to win the national

How did you do today mate with the early lib funny day with the weather???

Many fanciers in Pembrokeshire have tried everything late breds, late breds that have trained, earlies that have trained ect ect. But nothing is as good as getting experience in the race situation, its not just flying from a distance, its everything travelling, being in a ctate over night, late libs early libs, good weather, poor weather, large flocks all let go together, and then travelling home having pigeons pull off and going to various locations, To me its like building up a CV of experience which makes a real racer.

The best and consistent racers as youngsters tend to then carry it on as adults and are good racers in the future. I always tend to stop a few yearlings and not race then till the following season provided they were tested as yougsters, and have had good results with them.

You will always get the odd fancier who had a champion late bred that never went into a basket til it was 2, just like someones granny smoked 100 fags a day and lived to 100, its always what you hear but they forget the 100 pigeons which were lates they lost before finding that 1 bird, for me I haveent got the time or money to waste finding such pigeons which probably never exist.

EssexSteve wrote:

What do the members think, do you really have to race Young birds or can you just train train train and end up with a team of old birds that can compete???

Differant ways !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! with what you do with young birds etc. Education/training has to be done if you want them to have a long team future. YB's are what I call ratty/stupid in their youth & you have to get that out of them through education. Mob tosses or a few races to 100miles can only be of benefit, the way I see things. Different strokes for different folks etc but here, we send them 600mls & think nothing of it.
*****

Yep your right for once ?lol

killer wrote:

Yep your right for once ?lol

Thank you etc I just new ???? that I may get something right one day. Pity !!!!!!!!! it took 50 odd years.
*****

Don Webb wrote:

fletch wrote:

Don Webb wrote:

fletch wrote:

Don Webb wrote:

Steve you dont havr to race youngbirds in the year they were born but as long as you train them well from at least 60 miles and basket them like you would for a race keeping thewm in the basket over night then they will be fine

There was a fancier to the name of Norman Westwood of Bilston and he was one of the best widowhood flyers in the midlands and he never raced his young cocks only trained them but trained them well

good fancier mate and he also topped the midland national as well too

Yes Lee that was from Angoleme mate

cheers mate didnt know racepoint

Think it was 1996 and thew best part about it he never saw the pigeon come as he walked in the house for something Johnny Bradley was waiting also and it was John who timed the pigeon to win the national

How did you do today mate with the early lib funny day with the weather???

1234 in tipton and distridt club but 1st one should be on worcster fed sheet i think
2 and 4 in great bridge club but would imagine that club a minute off the pace yesterday
but birds came well to be fair sent 14 birds in total and loft was shut after 10 mins both clubs

fletch wrote:

Don Webb wrote:

fletch wrote:

Don Webb wrote:

fletch wrote:

Don Webb wrote:

Steve you dont havr to race youngbirds in the year they were born but as long as you train them well from at least 60 miles and basket them like you would for a race keeping thewm in the basket over night then they will be fine

There was a fancier to the name of Norman Westwood of Bilston and he was one of the best widowhood flyers in the midlands and he never raced his young cocks only trained them but trained them well

good fancier mate and he also topped the midland national as well too

Yes Lee that was from Angoleme mate

cheers mate didnt know racepoint

Think it was 1996 and thew best part about it he never saw the pigeon come as he walked in the house for something Johnny Bradley was waiting also and it was John who timed the pigeon to win the national

How did you do today mate with the early lib funny day with the weather???

1234 in tipton and distridt club but 1st one should be on worcster fed sheet i think
2 and 4 in great bridge club but would imagine that club a minute off the pace yesterday
but birds came well to be fair sent 14 birds in total and loft was shut after 10 mins both clubs

Quality racing as always by you and your dad

Don Webb wrote:

fletch wrote:

Don Webb wrote:

fletch wrote:

Don Webb wrote:

fletch wrote:

Don Webb wrote:

Steve you dont havr to race youngbirds in the year they were born but as long as you train them well from at least 60 miles and basket them like you would for a race keeping thewm in the basket over night then they will be fine

There was a fancier to the name of Norman Westwood of Bilston and he was one of the best widowhood flyers in the midlands and he never raced his young cocks only trained them but trained them well

good fancier mate and he also topped the midland national as well too

Yes Lee that was from Angoleme mate

cheers mate didnt know racepoint

Think it was 1996 and thew best part about it he never saw the pigeon come as he walked in the house for something Johnny Bradley was waiting also and it was John who timed the pigeon to win the national

How did you do today mate with the early lib funny day with the weather???

1234 in tipton and distridt club but 1st one should be on worcster fed sheet i think
2 and 4 in great bridge club but would imagine that club a minute off the pace yesterday
but birds came well to be fair sent 14 birds in total and loft was shut after 10 mins both clubs

Quality racing as always by you and your dad

cheers don