probiotics

what probiotics do members use

I have been using Yakult red cap, in the water every other day, since i started breeding. I am going to use it with honey, on race day when birds have returned home.

how much yakult do you put in the water dev yakult to litres and will you be adding the honey as well and how much have you tried it on the corn

Mark i use 1 bottle to 2 litres of water, this will be my first year racing so i will mix honey in water night before then add yakult when they return. A tablespoon of honey in 2 litres of water.

I use primalac, I think that's a pro biotic...........

using a probiotic mixed with honey it a toatal waste of time, as honey kills bacteria?

Rudderfett wrote:

using a probiotic mixed with honey it a toatal waste of time, as honey kills bacteria?

Is that true Martin, i was told about it from a guy in holland, He uses it as a pick me up after a race.

birds never get probiotic.
but do get apple cider vinegar 7 days a week

ant one ever used provit or magic might try them this season

markevans wrote:

ant one ever used provit or magic might try them this season

Just after i paired up, I was putting provit and wheat germ oil on the corn. the birds loved it.

I did read they are stopping provit production...not sure if theirs any truth in it ,primalac would be my choice of probiotic but only use it when racing

Honey is very good for pigeons firstly because its a sugar source, and secondly locally produced honey and not super market honey has antibiotic qualities that's why it will never go bad, prevents bacteria growing, good to put directly on open wounds to stop infection.

Im not a fan of probiotics for lots of reasons, but a mate of mine bought Gems gemthrapax from blackpool and said he can see the difference in droppings, I know nothing about this product but he likes it.

Used probiotics once a week since we restarted in 2011.

May be of interest. Using 5 to 10% rabbit pellets in the mix. 16% protein, basically Alfalfa. Young in the nest, water freezes hour after changing it (except for stock loft) and all birds look excellent. Aviary is open for them. When there are a few pellets left I know I am overfeeding. Pre-biotics in the pellets.
PS. My large Pleco likes them also!

interesting hal them pellets certainly seem packed with goodies

Cheap also!

yes, probably just the same thing as pigeon pellets, only difference they don't have a picture of a pigeon on the packet.....

Rudderfett wrote:

using a probiotic mixed with honey it a toatal waste of time, as honey kills bacteria?

Spot on Martyn

devo56 wrote:

Rudderfett wrote:

using a probiotic mixed with honey it a toatal waste of time, as honey kills bacteria?

Is that true Martin, i was told about it from a guy in holland, He uses it as a pick me up after a race.

Devo as you and the members know I don't have any pigeons at the moment but I can tell you this if you want to give your pigeons a lift after a race

I have already posted this on the site some time back

Place 2 tablespoons of clear Honey in a normal water fountain add a splash of fresh lemon juice or Jif Lemon and get some warm water not boiling (boiling water kills the good bacteria in the honey) let the water dissolve the honey then fill the water fountain with normal tap water and let that be the first drink you birds get on there return from a race.

Remove the water the following day and give your birds fresh clean water and you watch your birds recover better

whats the difference between a pre biotic and a pro biotic...?

Don Webb wrote:

devo56 wrote:

Rudderfett wrote:

using a probiotic mixed with honey it a toatal waste of time, as honey kills bacteria?

Is that true Martin, i was told about it from a guy in holland, He uses it as a pick me up after a race.

Devo as you and the members know I don't have any pigeons at the moment but I can tell you this if you want to give your pigeons a lift after a race

I have already posted this on the site some time back

Place 2 tablespoons of clear Honey in a normal water fountain add a splash of fresh lemon juice or Jif Lemon and get some warm water not boiling (boiling water kills the good bacteria in the honey) let the water dissolve the honey then fill the water fountain with normal tap water and let that be the first drink you birds get on there return from a race.

Remove the water the following day and give your birds fresh clean water and you watch your birds
recover better

Don thank you for your advice, in which i will try. The main thing is we are sharing information, some may not agree but thats up to them. We can only work together for the good of the sport.

Every week i get the BHW, and read you must have this in your loft, and with that you must buy this. To be honest, I think it does not help the sport, what started has a sport for the working class. You hear now not only on this forum but others too. I have saved up to buy this product, because i will need for the racing season. Please use the forum to your advantage, its good to share information. But please remember, we have members with many years of flying under their belt, but at the end of the day, they were a novice like ourselves. Dont feel left out get involved, no idea is a bad one.

halcanada wrote:

May be of interest. Using 5 to 10% rabbit pellets in the mix. 16% protein, basically Alfalfa. Young in the nest, water freezes hour after changing it (except for stock loft) and all birds look excellent. Aviary is open for them. When there are a few pellets left I know I am overfeeding. Pre-biotics in the pellets.

PS. My large Pleco likes them also!

Thought i would look into this more, so i had a word with Dave in the corn store, after a good chat i bought a bag to try. I do like the the idea myself.



http://www.rabbit-information.co.uk/rabbit-health/coccidiosis/

we use g10s but would think these are half the price mind you g10s don't contain any medications I noticed the rabbit pellets contain a anti-coccidiosis medication atb with them

oldstrain wrote:

we use g10s but would think these are half the price mind you g10s don't contain any medications I noticed the rabbit pellets contain a anti-coccidiosis medication atb with them

i dont use rabbit or g10 pellets but do not think an anti cocci treatment will do any harm whilst birds are rearing