Nest Box...

morb wrote:

FlyAwayHome wrote:

Thanks for explaining for me morb. Everything you said applies perfectly to me

no worries, those who don't live in this part of the world don't understand. alberta and Saskatchewan are vey similar in mind i think

Yeah, I get that feeling.

just go catch those barn pigeons and put that nest box to use, you will have eggs very soon

morb wrote:

just go catch those barn pigeons and put that nest box to use, you will have eggs very soon

I'll do that

morb wrote:

just go catch those barn pigeons and put that nest box to use, you will have eggs very soon

Maybe Fly Away doesn't even need to catch her little barn champs Morb . Could maybe place a few nest boxes around in her barn with feed there to get them using them & then watch & catch the babies when ready to come out of the nest so to speak. Fly Away take no notice of Hal grumpy old bugger at the best of times but we will work together to re-educate him     on how smart certain young folk can be these days etc .
*****

Knackered wrote:

morb wrote:

just go catch those barn pigeons and put that nest box to use, you will have eggs very soon

Maybe Fly Away doesn't even need to catch her little barn champs Morb . Could maybe place a few nest boxes around in her barn with feed there to get them using them & then watch & catch the babies when ready to come out of the nest so to speak. Fly Away take no notice of Hal grumpy old bugger at the best of times but we will work together to re-educate him     on how smart certain young folk can be these days etc .
*****

good idea oz would be much easier looking after the parents in the barn and take babies away around 4 weeks old

oldstrain wrote:

Knackered wrote:

morb wrote:

just go catch those barn pigeons and put that nest box to use, you will have eggs very soon

Maybe Fly Away doesn't even need to catch her little barn champs Morb . Could maybe place a few nest boxes around in her barn with feed there to get them using them & then watch & catch the babies when ready to come out of the nest so to speak. Fly Away take no notice of Hal grumpy old bugger at the best of times but we will work together to re-educate him     on how smart certain young folk can be these days etc .
*****

good idea oz would be much easier looking after the parents in the barn and take babies away around 4 weeks old

Smart thinker type O/S at times the old knackeroo . Comes about from all his a**e up type moments falling off ladders when pruning his neighbours trees etc .

Flyaway,
Certainly did not have your means of expressing yourself at your age, however, by that time I had had numerous animal pets, racing pigeons from 7 years old, ferrets, bantams, rabbits,several wild birds, canaries,dog, mice etc;

All kept in good condition in make shift assorted premises made by hand from asnything one could lay their hands on.

Never heard one complaint from any of the animals.

From day one I learned you cannot beat nature, keep as close to and you will have few problems, attempt to improve on it and ????.

Never had one complaint from any animal I ever kept.


As for nest boxes or anything else just consider nature, have you seen a wood pigeon or a townie using a nest bowl or a nest box, some of my pigeons have built on a box perch and also on the deep litter.

Many things used by latter day fanciers are for show and nothing to do with a pigeons requirements.

Keep things as simple as possible and the pigeons will be happy, fill them full of rubbish and keep them in clinical conditions and you will have nothing but problems.

Hope you manage to settle some but it will not be easy, the best way would be to let them breed where they are and take the young, the ones in the present position know how to look after themselves.

Good luck'

Regards.

Knackered wrote:

morb wrote:

just go catch those barn pigeons and put that nest box to use, you will have eggs very soon

Maybe Fly Away doesn't even need to catch her little barn champs Morb . Could maybe place a few nest boxes around in her barn with feed there to get them using them & then watch & catch the babies when ready to come out of the nest so to speak. Fly Away take no notice of Hal grumpy old bugger at the best of times but we will work together to re-educate him     on how smart certain young folk can be these days etc .
*****

I was thinking about doing that as I do have an old barn that isn't in use any more and would be perfect. And if I took the yb I wouldn't have the real 'wild' birds.

MISTY wrote:

Flyaway,  
           Certainly did not have your means of expressing yourself at your age, however, by that time I had had numerous animal pets, racing pigeons from 7 years old, ferrets, bantams, rabbits,several wild birds, canaries,dog, mice etc;

All kept in good condition in make shift assorted premises made by hand from asnything one could lay their hands on.

Never heard one complaint from any of the animals.

From day one I learned you cannot beat nature, keep as close to and you will have few problems, attempt to improve on it and ????.

Never had one complaint from any animal I ever kept.


As for nest boxes or anything else just consider nature, have you seen a wood pigeon or a townie using a nest bowl or a nest box, some of my pigeons have built on a box perch and also on the deep litter.

Many things used by latter day fanciers are for show and nothing to do with a pigeons requirements.

Keep things as simple as possible and the pigeons will be happy, fill them full of rubbish and keep them in clinical conditions and you will have nothing but problems.

Hope you manage to settle some but it will not be easy, the best way would be to let them breed where they are and take the young, the ones in the present position know how to look after themselves.

Good luck'

Regards.

 

Sounds like you had a good childhood! Thank you for all the input; it's very valid and helpful.

wheres yer horse avatar gone fly away..........it was a nice picture..

David wrote:

wheres yer horse avatar gone fly away..........it was a nice picture..

Thanks. I thought I'd take it down for a while

ah right.........

So with all the assumptions going on here thought I would make a few of my own.

First I assume that since you came to this site that you want to do right by the birds and are prepared to do what you can

Second I assume everyone that suggested to just through straw on the floor or you don’t need all the fancy stuff like nest boxes or nest bowls, all have these things.

If you want to catch those birds go ahead, if think your ready. They will settle down fairly quick. I have kept wild pigeons when I was your age and still keep a few to experiment with different colours.
Fastest way to tame ‘em down is with appetite, don’t starve them just keep ‘sharp soon they will be waiting for you to come through the door. You may never get them tame enough to eat from your hand but their baby will.

It’s been said that pigeons will nest on the floor this is true but not natural, have a look in the barn and see where they nesting. They are nesting off the floor in a spot where they feel safe not out in the open.

If it were me I would catch one pair give them a nest box and a couple perches. Get a bag of layer ration from peavey mart it ‘s 12$ a bag it will last 2 birds a long time, something to give them water in and enjoy the hell out of them you will learn so much by sitting on a pail in the loft and just watch them. Who knows you might catch the genetics bug and try to breed different colours or whatever. If it don’t work out and becomes a chore then just open the door and walk away, no harm done.

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you can make a pigeon drinker from 2 small bucket type containers cut one down to about 3 inches high then keep the other bucket whole but cut windows out and place it over the 3 inch one which will hold the water so that it stops the water from getting dirty or full of debris ...be careful with the knifes though atb

ps not my idea but my grandfathers when I had my first birds 40 years ago in a box next to his loft

I was just thinking about that the other day Darren, when I was emptying the ice out of my drinkers......sometimes in the past they have cracked because of the ice, so I was thinking what I would do in an emergency .....


I thought the same as you, a depatagoon tub would be ideal.....it has a removable lid to pour water in, and to keep the birds out......and also to cut round the sides squares/oblongs to allow the birds to drink.

I answered in the post in red.

morb wrote:

So with all the assumptions going on here thought I would make a few of my own. Sure, why not. I always like to see what kind of an impression I make on people.

First I assume that since you came to this site that you want to do right by the birds  and are prepared to do what you can You're absolutely right there.

Second I assume everyone that suggested to just through straw on the floor or you don’t need all the fancy stuff like nest boxes or nest bowls, all have these things. Right...

If you want to catch those birds go ahead, if think your ready. They will settle down fairly quick. I have kept wild pigeons when I was your age and still keep a few to experiment with different colours.
Fastest way to tame ‘em down is with appetite, don’t starve them just keep ‘sharp soon they will be waiting for you to come through the door. You may never get them tame enough to eat from your hand but their baby will.

It’s been said that pigeons will nest on the floor this is true but not natural, have a look in the barn and see where they nesting. They are nesting off the floor in a spot where they feel safe not out in the open. Yeah, I've noticed that

If it were me I would catch one pair give them a nest box and a couple perches. Get a bag of layer ration from peavey mart it ‘s 12$ a bag it will last 2 birds a long time, something to give them water in and enjoy the hell out of them you will learn so much by sitting on a pail in the loft and just watch them. Who knows you might catch the genetics bug and try to breed different colours or whatever. If it don’t work out and becomes a chore then just open the door and walk away, no harm done.

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All sound advice. Thanks.

oldstrain wrote:

you can make a pigeon drinker from 2 small bucket type containers cut one down to about 3 inches high then keep the other bucket whole but cut windows out and place it over the 3 inch one which will hold the water so that it stops the water from getting dirty or full of debris ...be careful with the knifes though atb

ps not my idea but my grandfathers when I had my first birds 40 years ago in a box next to his loft

That's a good idea!

FlyAwayHome wrote:

So with all the assumptions going on here thought I would make a few of my own. Sure, why not. I always like to see what kind of an impression I make on people.

First I assume that since you came to this site that you want to do right by the birds  and are prepared to do what you can You're absolutely right there.

Second I assume everyone that suggested to just through straw on the floor or you don’t need all the fancy stuff like nest boxes or nest bowls, all have these things. Right...

If you want to catch those birds go ahead, if think your ready. They will settle down fairly quick. I have kept wild pigeons when I was your age and still keep a few to experiment with different colours.
Fastest way to tame ‘em down is with appetite, don’t starve them just keep ‘sharp soon they will be waiting for you to come through the door. You may never get them tame enough to eat from your hand but their baby will.

It’s been said that pigeons will nest on the floor this is true but not natural, have a look in the barn and see where they nesting. They are nesting off the floor in a spot where they feel safe not out in the open. Yeah, I've noticed that

If it were me I would catch one pair give them a nest box and a couple perches. Get a bag of layer ration from peavey mart it ‘s 12$ a bag it will last 2 birds a long time, something to give them water in and enjoy the hell out of them you will learn so much by sitting on a pail in the loft and just watch them. Who knows you might catch the genetics bug and try to breed different colours or whatever. If it don’t work out and becomes a chore then just open the door and walk away, no harm done.

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All sound advice. Thanks. [smiley]https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/smiley]

Good I’m glad I got it right

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oldstrain wrote:

you can make a pigeon drinker from 2 small bucket type containers cut one down to about 3 inches high then keep the other bucket whole but cut windows out and place it over the 3 inch one which will hold the water so that it stops the water from getting dirty or full of debris ...be careful with the knifes though atb

ps not my idea but my grandfathers when I had my first birds 40 years ago in a box next to his loft [smiley]https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_biggrin.png[/smiley]

Good idea, I like it

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just shows pigeon keeping can be done cheaper, rather than expensive........and as our misty says, some fanciers make pigeon keeping/racing harder than it needs to be.

David wrote:

just shows pigeon keeping can be done cheaper, rather than expensive........and as our misty says, some fanciers make pigeon keeping/racing harder than it needs to be.

that's right but some people like to make things complicated but that's ok, whatever makes you happy...as long as it's legal

morb wrote:

David wrote:

just shows pigeon keeping can be done cheaper, rather than expensive........and as our misty says, some fanciers make pigeon keeping/racing harder than it needs to be.

that's right but some people like to make things complicated but that's ok, whatever makes you happy...as long as it's legal

Lol, right...

1 gallon bleach bottle. Cut 4 openings in it 4 inches up. Use for water or whatevr. I use for grit.

David wrote:

I was just thinking about that the other day Darren, when I was emptying the ice out of my drinkers......sometimes in the past they have cracked because of the ice, so I was thinking what I would do in an emergency .....


I thought the same as you, a depatagoon tub would be ideal.....it has a removable lid to pour water in, and to keep the birds out......and also to cut round the sides squares/oblongs to allow the birds to drink.

that size is ideal david the beauty of having two pieces for the drinker means you can give them a good clean I like hals idea for a grit feeder though

yes me too, they work just as well as a bought one, doesn't look as nice and fancy, but the pigeons don't know any different eh