York Road & District Flying Club

some of the members who didn't send had 30 or more ybs at home, these certain members did not send because a vote didn't go their way, it was decided by vote, that we would fly from Ilkeston 57 miles instead of Leicester 98 miles, so a certain clique didn't send any birds.........also some members who voted also didn't send, but this wasn't in protest I don't think, probably because their birds wernt ready.

I think when some fanciers have 30 - 40 ybs which have raced and trained, and they decide not to send because they didn't get their own way, is it any wonder pigeon racing is in decline.

personally, I think our club will be finished in 5 years , maximum.......

Nothing so strange as folks they say … let alone fanciers.

yes true daz, especially when two of these members are the club sec and treasurer .......is there any hope for the club eh .

Nothing stranger that pigeon men lol

just had a yb reported from Saturdays race in derby ...........fancier said she came straight into his loft, flown down and needing a drink.

York Road & District Flying Club
Leicester 4/5/18 5 members sent 72 birds

1 P Faulkner...……….1146
2 K Bryan...…………..1137
3 K Bryan...…………..1137
4 P Faulkner...……...1129
5 K Bryan...…………..1089
6 A Cairns...………….1086

Well done all in prizes

David wrote:

some of the members who didn't send had 30 or more ybs at home, these certain members did not send because a vote didn't go their way, it was decided by vote, that we would fly from Ilkeston 57 miles instead of Leicester 98 miles, so a certain clique didn't send any birds.........also some members who voted also didn't send, but this wasn't in protest I don't think, probably because their birds wernt ready.

I think when some fanciers have 30 - 40 ybs which have raced and trained, and they decide not to send because they didn't get their own way, is it any wonder pigeon racing is in decline.

personally, I think our club will be finished in 5 years , maximum.......

childish, nout so queer as folk, we had trouble getting ours on transporter, 8 members sent 340birds, have to get more baskets from fed wasn't long ago thought the club gonna fold so chin up things might change for us all

The Sec posted us all in club regards costs and expenditure not met. Indeed again the barrel was empty of Apples.
Of we trot to debate … Had to have another one. Ideas to put forward regards any means of raising money … after 4 times of raising the costs - Raised enough twice two Trailers etc. I was more than a mite peeved. the other twice was to keep the club afloat.

Nothing settled again .. two more meetings and it was squeezed out of the 29 member Subs were to go up by a five, which barely, if actually would cover costs. sec also decided - under no obligation to reduce his fees.


So next AGM three propositions nigh the same 'Now that we have all this extra money coming in, can we use it for Prize money! I kid you not!

Any was I did a couple of fund raisers- again2 I also got 12 birds from National winners to sale.
Another good fancier done same … he raised £1,000's.( over £3500 between us.) This was to be put into the club funds to keep us on the straight and narrow. To have money to go into the kitty for a rainy day and help if and when and then also to be decided via club members!
End of season, first meeting 'Any other Business' discussion how much could we take out this club funds for 'Prize Money'!
I said and proposed, that any and every £1 of prize money should be raised separately for that purpose. Then before the AGM meeting we could decide what to pay out from the money raised for that money... It was shot down in flames. I also put it forward again at the A.G.M. Shot down. Voted on and accepted that £1500 would be fair and square. Same next year?
No I have never raised any more money since. indeed these same members NEVER attended a fund - raiser Not Ever! Nor did they put a penny into any rafle Tickets, scratch cards Nor even came to any event etc.
Plus to add insult to injury they didn't frequent the venue, or buy a drink ... not even a soft drink .... But first tickling ears and hands up at meetings to dictate their views. Need one gone on?
This, Misty, is another reason - selfishness- why the sport s struggling.
same ones whom never mark or help the birds etc. Struggle when told to help with the 'strike off, whilst we same one carry them! But they sit out side spouting what 'WE should do! and stirr the pot most weeks.

Daz

When you raised the money you should have stipulated that it could only be used for the running of the club, after normal expenses had been met through the normal channels and not in any way be involved in prize money, but purely for administrative purposes when needed, any deviation would entail the return of the donation in full.

There is no doubt that the sport has some real charmers better suited to playing tidley winks, although no doubt they would find a way of cheating and making money even then.

Some people are born good, some become good but unfortunately as in our sport ?????.

Regards.

Misty quote .................'.Any way I did a couple of fund raisers- again. I also got 12 birds from National winners to sale.
Another good fancier done same … he raised £1,200's.( over £3500 between us.) This was to be put into the club funds to keep us on the straight and narrow. To have money to go into the kitty for a rainy day and help if and when and then also to be decided via club members...…..!
But they have near spent out again

I think the time is not far off when considration may be given to making the transporters with a far smaller capacity and possibly better suited for the pigeons well being.

They would possibly not need a heavy goods licence to drive, all costs runnung would be considerably reduced and better liberation sites may be obtainable for smaller vehicles etc;

If the right approach was made the mob flyers could still send to their hearts content to fill the smaller vehicles to full capacity.

Presently within a very few races the transporters are only parcially full and a waste of money.

The sport needs to change if it going to be a viable proposition and within the means of the grass root fancier.

Regards.

Numbers. Many years ago flew in 4 different London, Ontario clubs. Two they put me out of bounds. Won too much.3rd club I was on the longer end. Things did not change. However, the same Fed I am in now was over capacity for young birds. The transporter. So young bird limit was put in place for each club. 40 a member. I would turn up with my usual, 15 or 20. The spaces I did not fill with pigeons other members could. They did. Most all brought extras. Still did very well. This Fed now has open limit OLD Birds, 60 max young birds. One has 120 and alternates weekly one can get them all on the road. Many ways to win or ship a lot.

MISTY wrote:

I think the time is not far off when considration may be given to making the transporters with a far smaller capacity and possibly better suited for the pigeons well being.

They would possibly not need a heavy goods licence to drive, all costs runnung would be considerably reduced and better liberation sites may be obtainable for smaller vehicles etc;

If the right approach was made the mob flyers could still send to their hearts content to fill the smaller vehicles to full capacity.

Presently within a very few races the transporters are only parcially full and a waste of money.

The sport needs to change if it going to be a viable proposition and within the means of the grass root fancier.

Regards.

That idea has been thrown around for years down my way Misty etc . Pigeon politics, has always killed it off type of thing I'm . Far better I'm told having 4/5 large transporters, sitting at roughly the same spot each week here doing their own thing than working together & all being on the one as such.

York Road & District Flying Club
Buckingham 11/8/18 5 members sent 42 birds

1 K Bryan & Son...……...1214
2 Mr Mrs Llewellyn...…...1200
3 K Bryan & Son...……...1148
4 K Bryan & Son...……...1147
5 P Faulkner................1080
6 K Bryan & Son...……...1035

Well don Kym and all in prizes

did you not send yet chuda...?

chuda wrote:

York Road & District Flying Club
Buckingham 11/8/18 5 members sent 42 birds

1 K Bryan & Son...……...1214
2 Mr Mrs Llewellyn...…...1200
3 K Bryan & Son...……...1148
4 K Bryan & Son...……...1147
5 P Faulkner................1080
6 K Bryan & Son...……...1035

Well don Kym and all in prizes

Well done all reminds me thou of our race at the weekend here with such a difference in velocities etc .

It would be interesting to know just how many miles above the distance used some pigeons fly,

Cannot believe the pigeons with the vastly lower velocities flew the same mileage as the ones with the highest velocities.

It would indicate that at some time for one reason or another the pigeons were split up and took different paths.

This in no way takes anything away from the ones that get back first they all have the same chance initially.

Regards.

David wrote:

did you not send yet chuda...?

No, had a few bad tosses last week, from wakefield 2 missing and 4 injured, hoping to send this week.

Misty, I think the pigeons encountered a hawk attack, as the returns were poor, 6/8, 1/9, 1/11, 0/10

chuda wrote:

Misty, I think the pigeons encountered a hawk attack, as the returns were poor, 6/8, 1/9, 1/11, 0/10

did brown bros send chuda ...?

It is heartbreaking to have your pigeons attacked after all the effort put in.

Something must be tried to put the raptors off.

I think later liberations giving just a reasonable margin of error should be tried matters cannot get any worse.

It is like throwing effort and money away.

One of the results of the present situation no one knows which pigeons have been adversey affected and may condemn the best not knowing what they have had to contend with.

Wish I could see a solution, it seems so unfair to both pigeon and fancier.



Regards.

chuda wrote:

Misty, I think the pigeons encountered a hawk attack, as the returns were poor, 6/8, 1/9, 1/11, 0/10

another season next year like this, and they will be begging the barkston ash to take them back............

David wrote:

chuda wrote:

Misty, I think the pigeons encountered a hawk attack, as the returns were poor, 6/8, 1/9, 1/11, 0/10

did brown bros send chuda ...?

Yes Brown Bros. did send, he took his clock out at 3.00 and didn't have any back then, but got 1 just after, 1/11.

chuda wrote:

David wrote:

chuda wrote:

Misty, I think the pigeons encountered a hawk attack, as the returns were poor, 6/8, 1/9, 1/11, 0/10

did brown bros send chuda ...?

Yes Brown Bros. did send, he took his clock out at 3.00 and didn't have any back then, but got 1 just after, 1/11.

ah right, so who got 0/10 ?

David wrote:

chuda wrote:

David wrote:

chuda wrote:

Misty, I think the pigeons encountered a hawk attack, as the returns were poor, 6/8, 1/9, 1/11, 0/10

did brown bros send chuda ...?

Yes Brown Bros. did send, he took his clock out at 3.00 and didn't have any back then, but got 1 just after, 1/11.

ah right, so who got 0/10 ?

Please show some kindness etc David some times we can have to much information as such displayed here    .