no yb racing this yr

i wish members all the very best with yb racing this coming season ...we are done this year as ybs got the illness that was brought back to the lofts from a race and alot had to go ,fuming tbh but what can ya do we only had 11 ybs but now down to 4 ...nevermind i can now give alfie my full attention this summer ,good luck lads and be vigilant with ybs it can change overnight literally atb

sorry to hear this darren, its not good when they bring something home with them from the race ........i had plans on yb racing next season, but its hearing things like this remind me of part of the reason i stopped racing,

probably the one who infected your birds and possibly others birds is still going to be racing the yb season .......

That's awful news Darren, thought you'd caught whatever it was in time, was it circovirus? is the whole club affected?

Diabolical oldstrain.

A years work ruined by selfish fanciers.

With animals one never knows what is round the corner, and with our pigeons no one knows what others are putting down their throats. doubt if many fanciers now have naturally healthy pigeons and by medication problems can be covered up, but still pass on the problems.

Goes without saying oldstrain feel for you and Alfie.

Regards.

barnie wrote:

That's awful news Darren, thought you'd caught whatever it was in time, was it circovirus? is the whole club affected?

What ever it was etc Barnie every ones worst nightmare scenario I suspect. One of those crap type moments unfortunately for the pair     but I'm sure they will bounce back given time. & take care.

adeno/coli ....had to make drastic decisions but sorted now atb lads

my ybs Thursday where in brilliant condition,  Friday 15 not right at all . On medication now . Unbelievable a week before racing

I used Tetracycline in the water for 2 days. Had to pull the head off a young bird. Feral pigeons had got in to the loft. All birds are in 2 lofts, old and young mixed.
As many are aware I am not one for medicating but thought it wise this one time.
Trying to set up a partnership or similar with a club member for next year. I will be a silent partner and go 50% with costs as long as he flies my young. His bands on them. Not heard back yet. Miss competing!!!!

Good idea Hal, benifit both of you.

Hope it works out well.

No matter how healthy pigeons are there are certain problems that cannot go unckecked and untreated.

A nasty unexpected wiil affect the healthiest.

Can honestly say I never had any such problems, luck plays a part and common sense the answer.

Regards.

halcanada81 wrote:

I used Tetracycline in the water for 2 days. Had to pull the head off a young bird. Feral pigeons had got in to the loft. All birds are in 2 lofts, old and young mixed.
As many are aware I am not one for medicating but thought it wise this one time.
Trying to set up a partnership or similar with a club member for next year. I will be a silent partner and go 50% with costs as long as he flies my young. His bands on them. Not heard back yet. Miss competing!!!!

wish you lived a bit closed hal, your just the sort of person id love to fly partners with .........thats what i need i think, a partner to keep me motivated when im being lazy

He called back. He has 10 young from me I banded with his bands. Tells me he lost some young training and hawk hit them on top of the loft and many flew away. Never asked if mine were missing.
I told him I would go 50% with shipping costs of youngsters. No need for a bunch of them. Few good ones will suffice. He will let me know mid-week.
He lives in a large town. I am out here with many raptors and white pigeons and no problems. But of course open loft they are more wary. Hope he decides to fly.

David wrote:

halcanada81 wrote:

I used Tetracycline in the water for 2 days. Had to pull the head off a young bird. Feral pigeons had got in to the loft. All birds are in 2 lofts, old and young mixed.
As many are aware I am not one for medicating but thought it wise this one time.
Trying to set up a partnership or similar with a club member for next year. I will be a silent partner and go 50% with costs as long as he flies my young. His bands on them. Not heard back yet. Miss competing!!!!

wish you lived a bit closed hal, your just the sort of person id love to fly partners with .........thats what i need i think, a partner to keep me motivated when im being lazy

Tetracycline bit out of my price range etc Hal I'm   Did thou give them all a dose of spirits of salts yesterday here just waiting now, for them to all fall off the perch type of thing .
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Sounds to me that matters regarding health problems have increased some what since I last raced.

Was bound to happen when using medicstion both curative and more important preventative with no proper regard to the possible consequences.

Think it gets harder year on year and the immune system almost none existant.

Glad I enjoyed the good times would not like to be starting now.

Regards.

its worrying to think misty, whenever we send our birds racing, they cn bring some sort of illness home with them, which in turn can transmit to our other birds which havent been racing .......do the people basketing not notice the bird feels light, or looks ill ?

I always insisted any off colour bird never went in the paniers, but they were very rare, fanciers pigeons over all were very good regarding any health problems, but they were nothing like those pigeons have to cope with today.

I know many fanciers who have to treat costantly for canker and other problems, continental fanciers were using Baytril every month years ago, it just masks it not cures it.

We should never have copied continental methods and treatment, prior to doing so we had very few health problems.

A continental friend told me what they were doing in the 70s and I wrote in the BHW that if we adopted their methods etc; our sport would suffer the consequences.

Was cried down by those intent on adopting everything continental (will not name them they know who they are but it makes my stomack churn when I see their photos in the sports publications)

It would take many years and very high losses to regain the health and immunity pigeons had 70 years ago.

Sign of the times in nearly every aspect of life.

Gone to the dogs I am afraid.

Regards.

Says I have one unread message, looked and nothing there, last couple of days so if it needed a reply sorry, not received it.

Regards.

Regarding health. The tetracycline I got from the local feed store. Quite a few months ago. A year maybe? Used it for one day. The off colour bird picked right up. Back then. Never usually medicate as I did years ago. No need to. But again have introduced very few pigeons. A person buys a lot of birds then to ensure his investment is safe he medicates at the first sign of a potential problem. Have a red hen here, banded 2009. She no longer has fertile eggs but she is still in good health, very tame. She will end her days here. Never vaccinated for over 10 years now. I beleive the birds immune ststem is as it should be.

Think that is one of the benifits of not continualy introducing new pigeons Hal.

You build up the immune system overtime in your own pigeons
and can sort out the wheat from the chaff easily.

Regards.

That’s terrible news Darren, I feel your pain. I was buzzing because I won the first young bird race, but this week they didn’t look quite 100% so I didn’t send, and by Sunday they’ve been taking it in turns going down with it. I’ve got them on Deweerd 4 in 1 YB sickness medicine. It’s not as bad as yours though Darren. All the best.
Let me know if you want any latebreds mate.

The sport can cetainly kick you in the teeth at the worst possible time.

One of the main problems is the different methods fanciers use.

You have the clinical method, everything spotless, pigeons given everything the fancier thinks is needed.

The in betweenies.

Then the could not care less as long as I can send, no particular system just a muddle.

Problem.

The clinical pigeons will be most affected by any problem that the latter may carry but not show, having their immune system nullified by the method they are kept, but the muddlers having a good immune system will survive better than the clinicals, with possibly no outward signs (the latter being the problem).

Regards.

isnt there anything that could be put in the water for the birds, on arrival home from the race to stop them getting ill ...or to nip in in the bud before it takes a hold ?

As long as I have kept pigeons some fanciers have used treatments as preventatives when they return from a race.

They can do nothing if the pigeon has already contracted the problem.

The problem would have to be treated.

Regards.

Boosey wrote:

That’s terrible news Darren, I feel your pain. I was buzzing because I won the first young bird race, but this week they didn’t look quite 100% so I didn’t send, and by Sunday they’ve been taking it in turns going down with it. I’ve got them on Deweerd 4 in 1 YB sickness medicine. It’s not as bad as yours though Darren. All the best.
Let me know if you want any latebreds mate.

well done on yer win steve thanks for the offer of lates m8 but will decline as have enough old birds to race next yr although no yearlings ,good luck for the weekend if you send

Boosey wrote:

That’s terrible news Darren, I feel your pain. I was buzzing because I won the first young bird race, but this week they didn’t look quite 100% so I didn’t send, and by Sunday they’ve been taking it in turns going down with it. I’ve got them on Deweerd 4 in 1 YB sickness medicine. It’s not as bad as yours though Darren. All the best.
Let me know if you want any latebreds mate.

Well done on your win etc Boosey pity thou about the crap side of your news here as such .
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Boosey wrote:

That’s terrible news Darren, I feel your pain. I was buzzing because I won the first young bird race, but this week they didn’t look quite 100% so I didn’t send, and by Sunday they’ve been taking it in turns going down with it. I’ve got them on Deweerd 4 in 1 YB sickness medicine. It’s not as bad as yours though Darren. All the best.
Let me know if you want any latebreds mate.

well done on your win boosey, sorry to hear they went down with something, i hope you get it sorted quickly .........