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PostSubject: Re: Ambition in sport   Ambition in sport - Page 29 EmptyMon Mar 13, 2023 2:49 am

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Hated culling.

Spoils and reduces the enjoyable parts.

However, it would be impossible to breed every year and keep them all, even if you started off with only half a dozen.

What you can do, and I always did to the best of my ability, give any animal etc;
that I kept as near to nature as possible.

Widowhood and the Darkness methods do not meet that criteria.

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I suspect somehow Smile Smile culling worries a lot of us etc Misty, if honest. Hard to escape thou Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes I'm affraid End of the day, most animal's/birds & especially those in the food chain for us humans have an ending not to their general liking type of thing I suggest. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Ambition in sport   Ambition in sport - Page 29 EmptyMon Mar 13, 2023 9:15 am

the thing is we bred/bought these birds so the buck stops with us ,something i was no longer willing to do ...which is why i just have a few as pets now like i used to before i started racing and to be honest i am enjoying it with no pressure or conscience but thats just me and what i feel/think so i am not having a pop here at anyone else for what they do but none the less it did not sit well with me and very happy i dont have to make those decisions anymore Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Ambition in sport   Ambition in sport - Page 29 EmptyMon Mar 13, 2023 9:56 am

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MISTY wrote:
Hated culling.

Spoils and reduces the enjoyable parts.

However, it would be impossible to breed every year and keep them all, even if you started off with only half a dozen.

What you can do, and I always did to the best of my ability, give any animal etc;
that I kept as near to nature as possible.

Widowhood and the Darkness methods do not meet that criteria.

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I suspect somehow Smile Smile culling worries a lot of us etc Misty, if honest. Hard to escape thou Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes I'm affraid End of the day, most animal's/birds & especially those in the food chain for us humans have an ending not to their general liking type of thing I suggest. cheers

Agree with that Knackered, we just take for granted that which is offered us by way of food etc;

If we analysed all that which is involved we may not sleep at night.

Afraid looking at all involved humans have a lot to answer for.

In particular as it is possible to live very well without meat.

But then we are talking about humans.

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PostSubject: Re: Ambition in sport   Ambition in sport - Page 29 EmptyTue Mar 14, 2023 7:55 pm

i read something a while ago which said the chickens in our super markets are only 30 days old.......thats 30 days from being a little yellow chick .

if this is true or not i dont know, to me it doesnt seem possible but it could be true i dont know .........i know we have to eat but if its true i dont like it . No
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PostSubject: Re: Ambition in sport   Ambition in sport - Page 29 EmptyWed Mar 15, 2023 5:25 pm

[quote="David"]i read something a while ago which said the chickens in our super markets are only 30 days old.......thats 30 days from being a little yellow chick .

if this is true or not i dont know, to me it doesnt seem possible but it could be true i dont know .........i know we have to eat but if its true i dont like it . No [/quote

Yes David.

Saw a programme that showed the poor things.

Also showed they were frozen to death.

Keeping thousands must mean using preventatives etc;

Showed thousands all in one large building including dead ones.

Food available all the time as is water.

HUMANS ???????

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PostSubject: Re: Ambition in sport   Ambition in sport - Page 29 EmptyWed Mar 15, 2023 7:48 pm

it seems the cruelty to animals is getting worse here in the uk misty, at one time animals seemed to be treated better, but now its going backwards and animal welfare is getting worse again.
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PostSubject: Re: Ambition in sport   Ambition in sport - Page 29 EmptyThu Mar 16, 2023 9:34 am

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it seems the cruelty to animals is getting worse here in the uk misty, at one time animals seemed to be treated better, but now its going backwards and animal welfare is getting worse again.

Fairly recent programme David showed ex race horses being shot for the food chain after serving their purpose and owners not willing to pay vet bills etc;.

Had to turn it off made me feel ill.

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PostSubject: Re: Ambition in sport   Ambition in sport - Page 29 EmptyThu Mar 16, 2023 9:25 pm

In the papers today regarding killing animals as trophies in Africa etc;

Big strong men (and women) shooting lions,tigers, elephants etc; etc; from point blank rage whilst they are enjoying their wild life.

Makes, or should, any normal person sick.

On another subject, hope Knackered has had his eye op and he can see clearly now.

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PostSubject: Re: Ambition in sport   Ambition in sport - Page 29 EmptyThu Mar 16, 2023 11:05 pm

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In the papers today regarding killing animals as trophies in Africa etc;

Big strong men (and women) shooting lions,tigers, elephants etc; etc; from point blank rage whilst they are enjoying their wild life.

Makes, or should, any normal person sick.

On another subject, hope Knackered has had his eye op and he can see clearly now.

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Went bush walking  Rolling Eyes  Rolling Eyes many years ago Misty Very Happy Very Happy back when bounce bounce in another type life. Gigantic Python, like never seen before in our way. No way forward, no way back situation. Hero types said shoot it Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad I said best not lol! lol! lol! just give it friendly type smile Smile Smile maybe & then attempt somehow to step over it & move on as such. End of the day Smile Smile the eye situation Misty is causing me some concern I'm affraid & especially now after my new glasses fiasco here with those pushing for me to have it done etc. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Ambition in sport   Ambition in sport - Page 29 EmptyFri Mar 17, 2023 10:29 am

There is nothing at all to worry about the operation Knackered.

Would be unwise to get glasses before having the operation, and only get one eye done at a time with break in between, get the glasses after the operation because it does improve the sight significantly.

Good luck.

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PostSubject: Re: Ambition in sport   Ambition in sport - Page 29 EmptyFri Mar 17, 2023 10:38 am

not a silly question what does  glasses on prescription mean
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PostSubject: Re: Ambition in sport   Ambition in sport - Page 29 EmptyFri Mar 17, 2023 10:46 am

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not a silly question what does  glasses on prescription mean

Could be wrong but think it means, George, those prescribed by an optician as being appropriate to your eye condition.

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thanks misty  that may apply to me
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PostSubject: Re: Ambition in sport   Ambition in sport - Page 29 EmptyFri Mar 17, 2023 3:28 pm

Not read the BHW yet George, just skimmed through it, still no AGM report ????

Bet most of the propositions were turned down.

Be interesting.

Regards.

Read the BHW George.

Old article by John Harwood.

Lost touch with him when I stopped racing.

Apparently he is having trouble with his laptop.

Was amazed and not a little upset to learn he has lost all his border collies he
adored them and to lose all four must be heart breaking, even time only dims the hurt one feels

Just hope his operation enables him to get around a lot more.

Got a Christmas card 2222 but not this year, no wonder with all he is going through.

Would drop him a line but would have no words to express how I feel for him.

Hard to weigh matters up sometimes George.


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yes think ones from this region were one the issuing of rings early
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yes think ones from this region were one the issuing of rings early

Cannot understand minutes of past AGMs are still on that are totally irrelevant and not the up to date one that will affect the sports future.
Although looking at past ones tis plain why the sport has stood still ( sorry, gone backwards)

The Clique do not want change.

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what i can't understand  misty why was it not in this weeks BHW
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[quote="George & Morgan"]what i can't understand  misty why was it not in this weeks BHW[/quote

Too busy trying to get OL entries me thinks George.

Think the new chap in charge is a good guy, just hope he gets some backing.

Will be interesting to see how the proposition votes went.

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sorry so far can't agree Chris is the right man for the job i think a lady called Milly  now runs  the rpra and rest work from home most days  hope i'm wrong
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sorry so far can't agree Chris is the right man for the job i think a lady called Milly  now runs  the rpra and rest work from home most days  hope i'm wrong

Just read the COs report in the 2222 AGM minutes George.

Think he summed matters up very well.

No one can solve matters when you have dead legs calling the tune and oppose any changes.

Only time will tell if the new bloke is given backing to change matters.

Why on earth do you think there has been so many different Managers etc; a job that should be a sought after one. ?????????????????????????????.

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PostSubject: Re: Ambition in sport   Ambition in sport - Page 29 EmptyMon Mar 20, 2023 6:36 pm

Whilst looking for some information regarding the new CO I came across several references and comments made on this site.so what we say is not just read by site members which may be a good thing.

Maybe liven some fanciers up.

Hope Knackered is OK.



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PostSubject: Re: Ambition in sport   Ambition in sport - Page 29 EmptyMon Mar 20, 2023 9:11 pm

Counted my birds yesterday and got a shock haha 107 old birds but that will wittle down as going to work them harder than normal...I want at least 7 to 8 wins this year .
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Counted my birds yesterday and got a shock haha 107 old birds but that will wittle down as going to work them harder than normal...I want at least 7 to 8 wins this year .


Do you have your own basic stock pigeons that you use every year and just try other youngsters from other sources to test against your own and how often, if you do, do the introductions beat your own.


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Yes exactly that . We bought a few birds this year off a top flyer who's partnership sort of packed in . They where to good to not get so that boosted the stock team up . We buy ybs in every year to see if better than our own
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Yes exactly that . We bought a few birds this year off a top flyer who's partnership sort of packed in . They where to good to not get so that boosted the stock team up . We buy ybs in every year to see if better than our own


Never did that myself but certainly very good and interesting addition to the norm.

Two races within a race, can't be bad.

Still miss seeing the last one back, in particular if it was a favourite having a bad day.

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