pairing up

hi all ive been giveing a all black cock bird for next season and im woundering if i paired him up to a blue hen would i get any blacks from them or would i need to find a black hen .....he is a extreame 1400 miles the bloke told me

1400 miles what is it a plane jet or sommit herd of 750 850 milelers but never 1400 miles

me neither phil, are you sure you heard the man correctly....? re the colour, yes i would think he could breed a black if put to a blue hen.....every so many ybs could be black.

the bloke said extream upto 1400

phil411 wrote:

the bloke said extream upto 1400

this would be a 4 - 5 day race phil............i dont have enouh experience in pigeons to comment on it then, sorry

did he say it was a perticular breed phil ?

i will pair up and see what comes .... lol i was just woundering if i would get blacks from him thats all .... just i lost my one i was giveing

extream distance is 700 to 850 theres not a race that long so the mans telling you a load o porkys

phil411 wrote:

i will pair up and see what comes .... lol i was just woundering if i would get blacks from him thats all .... just i lost my one i was giveing

phil, if you pair your black to a blue im sure you will get a certain % of blacks from them.....just the same as if you had paired a cheq to a blue.

sure he will

did he tell you what breeding it was phil ?

Phil you need to know what type of pigeon bred it is first mate, but not trying to knock you mate but 1400 miles ???????????????????

I know of the 1000 mile strain in scotland the lionheart strain

you will have heard of the pigeons that john/stormqueen has wont you don....they are from his uncle and are ritchie and whyte birds who had the famous bird stormqueen which are proven long distance birds which flew into scotland.........john still has birds now with the stormqueen blood in them.

but not pure bred , its got to weaken over the years

The bird I said was my faviourite I was told on tuesday that that bird is a decendent of stock the person had had for years and years still the same bloodline as it was

this cant be got to be weakened over the years

yes i think so ian

how many birds you got

36

i have 24 widowhood cocks 24 hens , 12 pairs of stock , and 2 fantails

7 rollers/tipplers

7 pairs stock

15 ybs will be racing natural

good luck with the racing sure you,ll get some good tips off members on here

Thanks ian and already have got alot of tips Learning all the time

pleased you have picked up some tips loads to learn but you will get there

ian wrote:

this cant be got to be weakened over the years

i know a fancier who bought some janssens in 1986 and has still got the blood from them in his loft, he has never introduced any different birds so the family remain pure......and are still winning.

how can he do this without interbreeding also how does he now for definate that the bloodline was pure to start with ?????????