pairing up

ian wrote:

how can he do this without interbreeding also how does he now for definate that the bloodline was pure to start with ?????????

dont know ian, maybe he has inbred or line bred i havnt asked him....but i suppose when we say our birds are pure, none of really know anyway do we......

what actually is a pure breed ? all the modern trendy breeds are a combination of bloodlines anyway.

yes david lie we say how do we know all the breeds of birds are only somebody,s name how do we know for definate wht lines they are

ian wrote:

yes david lie we say how do we know all the breeds of birds are only somebody,s name how do we know for definate wht lines they are

Good point ian never thought of that Just have to go by trust eh?

alex mark my words mate the best pigeons are the ones you get for nothing , as a gift,

ian wrote:

alex mark my words mate the best pigeons are the ones you get for nothing , as a gift,

That is very true ian. As I said, once im started with them properly I have no issue breeding a couple ybs for someone, because I have been helped starting, and want to help others out the same

excellent attitude mate credit to the sport

ian wrote:

yes david lie we say how do we know all the breeds of birds are only somebody,s name how do we know for definate wht lines they are

your right ian, i read somewhere that if say for instance.......george buscheart introduced a pigeon into his lofts, it would autamatically become a buscheart.

yes david this is why iam not really bothered about strains of pigeons as long as they race well thats all i want

thats right ian, and also when you read through these pedigrees it all could be made up....who knows if the parentage is correct as its the easiest thing to fake them isnt it ?

if i had a pair of birds with outstanding pedigrees, i could breed ybs off any old rubbish and say it came from the good ones couldnt i ....? have heard it said that a pedigree is only as good as the man who wrote it.

thats right david this is why i say the best you,ll get for nothing, of good honest fanciers

yes quite possible ian, altho i do have some birds with excellent pedigrees i do trust the man who they came off and he races the same blood, but at the end of the day he doesnt force their breeding down anyones throat and is a pure racing man and if they are no good they have to go regardless of pedigree.......on the other hand i also have some quality birds i had given this year which i have no pedigrees for, but i also trust the man who gave me them and know he has won well with them......so at the end of the day wether they have pedigrees or not its all down to how they perform either racing or breeding.

thats right david doesnt matter how well they are on paper if they are not perfoming either racing or breeding then they have to go

i got a pigeon off a wda combine winner this pigeon was sold to the japs for 13,000 pounds , she was direct from him , ihad year 3 years and she bred nothing , needless to say i have her no more,

thats why the 2011 season will be critical for me as i need to find out if any of these birds young and old are any good, as i didnt test them this year just gone.

yes david have to be tried and tested

ian wrote:

i got a pigeon off a wda combine winner this pigeon was sold to the japs for 13,000 pounds , she was direct from him , ihad year 3 years and she bred nothing , needless to say i have her no more,

thats right ian, if they are no good, they are no good simple as that..........the corn man where i sometimes go once got a pair of birds bought for him by his wife for a thousand pounds, they bred nothing and went in the bin..........

someone said to me this year, most pigeons are no good........and hes right they are mostly no good.

tae my 24 widowhood cocks i bet next year only a handfull mae the grade the rest will have to go

will have to make way for the 2011 ybs too eh ian ?

yes thats right young and new blood

when i get my new loft up ill be able to keep loads of them ian............

the bigger you go the more crap you keep

ian wrote:

the bigger you go the more crap you keep

true ian................

yes look at me

you must have hundreds of birds ian.............

no david have only about 70