tried pairing up

well I tried to pair up with my small team of show racers to find that two of the so called pairs which I bought are cocks and just knocked the crap out of each other
left with a problem now of two best cock birds having no hens and the two other cocks I am not realy bothered about not breeding from

klausey wrote:

well I tried to pair up with my small team of show racers to find that two of the so called pairs which I bought are cocks and just knocked the crap out of each other
left with a problem now of two best cock birds having no hens and the two other cocks I am not realy bothered about not breeding from

Are they the ones you purchased at Blackpool etc by chance john. If so !!!   I would be straight onto the last owner & tell him you do not like being shafted, type of thing.

Knackered wrote:

klausey wrote:

well I tried to pair up with my small team of show racers to find that two of the so called pairs which I bought are cocks and just knocked the crap out of each other
left with a problem now of two best cock birds having no hens and the two other cocks I am not realy bothered about not breeding from

Are they the ones you purchased at Blackpool etc by chance john. If so !!!   I would be straight onto the last owner & tell him you do not like being shafted, type of thing.

no the ones from Blackpool are exactly as the person described them , those three birds were the easiest to pair ,these are some from a fairly local fancier (20 miles away)and I think the old sod has had my "shirt-up"my back so now I am in desperate need of two white mealy or red hens

Knackered wrote:

klausey wrote:

well I tried to pair up with my small team of show racers to find that two of the so called pairs which I bought are cocks and just knocked the crap out of each other
left with a problem now of two best cock birds having no hens and the two other cocks I am not realy bothered about not breeding from

Are they the ones you purchased at Blackpool etc by chance john. If so !!!   I would be straight onto the last owner & tell him you do not like being shafted, type of thing.

shafted either way I would get on the blower asap john and give him some he may just rectum I mean rectify the problem ...hope it gets sorted for you atb

oldstrain wrote:

Knackered wrote:

klausey wrote:

well I tried to pair up with my small team of show racers to find that two of the so called pairs which I bought are cocks and just knocked the crap out of each other
left with a problem now of two best cock birds having no hens and the two other cocks I am not realy bothered about not breeding from

Are they the ones you purchased at Blackpool etc by chance john. If so !!!   I would be straight onto the last owner & tell him you do not like being shafted, type of thing.

shafted either way I would get on the blower asap john and give him some he may just rectum I mean rectify the problem ...hope it gets sorted for you atb

rectum was right mate , the man in question has sold up (so he says) and I wont get any change from him
he is near 80 years old so I dare not say too much
I am just going to live with it as I don't have much choice

are they regular show racers

oldstrain wrote:

are they regular show racers

white mealy show racers or show pen racer which ever title

would consider red or mealy hens

ah rite reason I asked is my friend has various show breeds but not show racers unfortunately ...seen some nice mealys at blackpool £35 each looked nice and healthy too

oldstrain wrote:

ah rite reason I asked is my friend has various show breeds but not show racers unfortunately ...seen some nice mealys at blackpool £35 each looked nice and healthy too

always the case , when I went to blackpool I thought I was well off for mealy's and only bought a yellow, a redhen and a silver cockbird which I am very pleased with
I looked at some mealy hens thinking that a couple of spare hens can do no harm !!!!!!!

te he he hindsight is a wonderful thing

john, you say the previous owner "supposedly" has packed in, why don't you try find out exactly if he has or not, then if he hasn't get onto him to put things right.........

being 80 years old works both ways, if hes old enough to have your pants down, hes old enough to be told you want your purchases put right......JMO

David wrote:

klausey, you say the previous owner "supposedly" has packed in, why don't you try find out exactly if he has or not, then if he hasn't get onto him to put things right.........

being 80 years old works both ways, if hes old enough to have your pants down, hes old enough to be told you want your purchases put right......JMO

fair point David , I wondered that if he has actually given up or just off loaded his spare cock birds onto me , might be worth a ride out tomorrow and see

Are they young birds as we all know sometime harder to determine the sex. And ye canny just boame the old guy didn't you handle and check the sex of them before buying??? Good luck

Delboy74 wrote:

Are they young birds as we all know sometime harder to determine the sex. And ye canny just boame the old guy didn't you handle and check the sex of them before buying??? Good luck

the ones I bought from him are finer built than my other birds and not having seen or had experience of his birds I took him at face value

I have contacted him and he has told me "I don't know what I am talking about" so there is no point pursuing the matter any further with him

I do know that driving cocks do not lay eggs though

I think you will just have to take this one on the chin m8 I suspect he knows exactly the game but what can you do with a 80 year old playing stupid atb

sounds a decent sort of chap john....NOT !!!, it sounds like he knew exactly what he was selling you, name and shame him on site, then others will know who he is and who to avoid in future.......

by the way, has he packed in ?

David wrote:

sounds a decent sort of chap klausey ....NOT !!!, it sounds like he knew exactly what he was selling you, name and shame him on site, then others will know who he is and who to avoid in future.......

by the way, has he packed in ?

sorry David but mistakes can be made and well there's two fanciers so far that can't tell the sex of the birds so both are at fault

we all at some time bought birds which were not the sex we thought they would be I bought 2 cocks and 3 hens which turned out to be 3 cocks I liked the birds and they did not break the bank so I was fine with it show birds change according to the judges at the time now they are very big years ago they were finer more likeliest racer which is what he may have had what you need to do is put some photos up how long have you been showing birds but do put some pic's up I would like to see them

Delboy74 wrote:

David wrote:

sounds a decent sort of chap klausey ....NOT !!!, it sounds like he knew exactly what he was selling you, name and shame him on site, then others will know who he is and who to avoid in future.......

by the way, has he packed in ?

sorry David but mistakes can be made and well there's two fanciers so far that can't tell the sex of the birds so both are at fault

yes quite true del, its not always possible to tell cocks from hens when they are young, but the sellers couldn't care less attitude and ignorance to klausey`s enquirey wasn't very sportsman like really......if it had been me and a genuine mistake had been made I would have at least tried to put things right for him. or come to some amicable agreement.

are we talking about this pigeon or pigeons in general

oldstrain wrote:

I think you will just have to take this one on the chin m8 I suspect he knows exactly the game but what can you do with a 80 year old playing stupid atb

I bought the birds which he had in a basket and as he taken them out told me the sex of each of the birds , I chose the ones that caught my eye for colour not type because as he told me at the time they are quite inbred and the birds heads are finer and not as "sweet"as the type I have

being told I don't know what I am talking about after seeing that one is clearly a cock bird did not endear me too him , but because of his age I have kept my mouth shut

his location is Longridge ,Preston and I don't think he has given up with birds because he still has a race team

I am better off putting this matter to bed and buying a hen from somewhere to go with the cock bird I have as I don't want to use the bird I got from him