natural use of elderberies

Noticed the article on elderberries; had a discussion on another site just a few days ago. Rather than starting from scratch I'll copy my response on the other site re elderberries:
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My experience with the use of elderberries has been positive.I had never had young

bird sickness in my loft till 2001, when I raced in a new location. After the first YB race my birds came down with the disease, which they likely picked up during transit. The stress of being in the trailer for the first time may have contributed to that also.
Since it is a viral problem I figured antibiotics would be useless. I had read about the properties of elderberries so I decided to forego the use of antibiotics and go the elderberry route. I found elderberry tea in one of the healthfood stores and started using that right away. During that week I found an elderberry tree full of berries. I picked as many berries as I could and also picked some leaves. The following day I used the fresh berries to prepare the tea. I used 2 tablespoons of berries, crushed these and added one litre of hot water. This was steeped overnight and used in the drinkers the following day. I used this tea for a full 2 weeks. In the meantime the YB seemed to get back into their normal form and after the 2 weeks the results were excellent again, in fact by the end of the season they managed to earn the club champion loft.
I continued to use the elderberry tea for the YB two days weekly till the end of the YB racing season. Never used any antibiotics during the entire YB season.
by the way, I added 1 tbspn of crushed dried elderberry leaves to the mixture after the initial 2 week period for the 2 day treatment. The elderberries I did not use during the first week I put in the freezer and used these as I needed the

i use the elderberies tea but i put a few more things in the tea like garlic powder yeast nettles dandylion ive used this lastyear my birds won young bird averages il be usen it this year hope it works again

WELL IF IT WORKS ROB KEEP TO IT MATE WELL DONE

i know someone who collects elderberries and makes ice cubes out of them an drops em into the drinkers,

if you watch the nature in the garden the wild wood pigeons are all over the elderberries , they have to survive the winter months , mother nature knows whats good for them.

YOUR RIGHT CHRIS WE HAVE A TREE ON THE FRONT THE BIRDS STRIP IT YOU CAN TELL THEY ROOST IN IT TO BLOODY RED PATH IN THE MORNINGS LOL
BUT THEY EAT THEM AS THE MUST GET SOME BENIFITS

They are a good thing and alot of fanciers collect them and place them in the freezer just the make sure they have a continued supply

Place a handful within a saucepan of water bring the water to the boil then allow to simmer for 10 mins take of the boil then allow to cool down

Once the water has cooled down then seive the liquid into containers which you can then use as and when you need

i boiled 2 eggs last week well cremated um lol so what chance have i with a few berries

make them in to a syrup and freeze in ice cube trays (1 cube to a 4 pint drinker)
they are full of vitamin c
but always pick them when they are rip (if you see the birds feeding on them all of a sudden they will be rip to harvest)
and always boil them to remove the toxins from them
best to add sugar other wise they are quite bitter tasting

good info steve mother nature knows best as they say

yes when the birds were feeding on them it was a sign they were ready
i used to help a bloke when i was a lad
that used these for is birds in the late 70,s

he also collected rose hips
but carnt remember how he did them for the birds
but i do remember most of the rose hips went in his home brew

what do the berries help?
are they helping as a natural antibiotic, for cures?
i can only find information talking about aiding imunity.

Chad wrote:

what do the berries help?
are they helping as a natural antibiotic, for cures?
i can only find information talking about aiding imunity.

i have some here chad and elderberry is good for respiratory but have heard that they are good for young bird sickness maybe some of the other guys can clarify that as i use something else for that

no ybs about when i used to use them for the racers
i do still give them to the birds today
i try to always use natural remides these days
only thing i treat for has routine is half a canker tablet and a pmv jab when i part any young
elderberry is good for vitamin c among other things it is supposed to help the immune system

i carnt remember the last time i treat for worms or cocci
but i use all sorts of concoctions and remidies
to name a few cider vin,garlic,onion ,lemon,carrot,beetroot
i also use albus oil in the lofts

oldstrain wrote:

Chad wrote:

what do the berries help?
are they helping as a natural antibiotic, for cures?
i can only find information talking about aiding imunity.

i have some here chad and elderberry is good for respiratory but have heard that they are good for young bird sickness maybe some of the other guys can clarify that as i use something else for that

Mainly used for youngbird sickness mate

steve b wrote:

i carnt remember the last time i treat for worms or cocci
but i use all sorts of concoctions and remidies
to name a few cider vin,garlic,onion ,lemon,carrot,beetroot
i also use albus oil in the lofts

Albus Oils you have no problem with blocked sinecies and no head cold then Steve b

no im clear as a bell

steve b wrote:

i carnt remember the last time i treat for worms or cocci
but i use all sorts of concoctions and remidies
to name a few cider vin,garlic,onion ,lemon,carrot,beetroot
i also use albus oil in the lofts

Cider vinegar for cocci.
Garlic for worms.
onion lemon carrot and beetroot for what?
Being my loft and ground are new to pidgeons I hope to maybe never use medicines. No sickness yet, I use cider vinegar 1 day a week vitimins/electrolites 1 day and just started garlic. Should I start a routine of anything else and does anybody suggest elderberry tea 1 day a week?

chad use apple cider vinegar twice a week mate you could also give honey instead of electrolytes

i use nettle tea mate, plenty of iron in it for them

david, just noticed my avatar mate who did this, think ill leave it on i like it

ok ill leave it for you feral, glad you like it..................

Chad wrote:

steve b wrote:

i carnt remember the last time i treat for worms or cocci
but i use all sorts of concoctions and remidies
to name a few cider vin,garlic,onion ,lemon,carrot,beetroot
i also use albus oil in the lofts

Cider vinegar for cocci.
Garlic for worms.
onion lemon carrot and beetroot for what?
Being my loft and ground are new to pidgeons I hope to maybe never use medicines. No sickness yet, I use cider vinegar 1 day a week vitimins/electrolites 1 day and just started garlic. Should I start a routine of anything else and does anybody suggest elderberry tea 1 day a week?

Chad natural pure clear honey is very good mate and a lot cheaper than electrolities as this does the same by replacing the lost suger levels

i usuall use honey 3 times a week chad, but this year ive decided to just use it when they return from a race (ybs), the rest of the week is just fresh clean water.....