NATURAL or COMERCIAL

what do you think is best for our birds . im trying something different with my ybs they will only get natural products Saturday after the race there first drink will be honey in water, sunday will be garlic strong then on thursday will be honey again any other times just plain water. im thinking that all these products of the shelve full of chemicals r no good for our birds .?? wat do members think

mufc rick wrote:

what do you think is best for our birds . im trying something different with my ybs they will only get natural products Saturday after the race there first drink will be honey in water, sunday will be garlic strong then on thursday will be honey again any other times just plain water. im thinking that all these products of the shelve full of chemicals  r no good for our birds .?? wat do members think

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hi rick, I used to give my ybs honey and cider vinegar mixed sat, tues and thurs every week, they were in excellent condition, but I havnt given them it for a couple of years now since they got yb sickness,,,,,i thought maybe the sweet honey had contributed to them getting it, maybe totally wrong but that's what I thought anyway....... 

mufc rick wrote:

what do you think is best for our birds . im trying something different with my ybs they will only get natural products Saturday after the race there first drink will be honey in water, sunday will be garlic strong then on thursday will be honey again any other times just plain water. im thinking that all these products of the shelve full of chemicals  r no good for our birds .?? wat do members think

Going overboard with "natural"products can certainly poison your birds mate....think on this before you make big mistake for its your birds health at risk,not yours.

David wrote:

hi rick, I used to give my ybs honey and cider vinegar mixed sat, tues and thurs every week, they were in excellent condition, but I havnt given them it for a couple of years now since they got yb sickness,,,,,i thought maybe the sweet honey had contributed to them getting it, maybe totally wrong but that's what I thought anyway....... 

dont think honey would harm your birds david as it has healing properties we are just finding out about i.e. sciantists

yes I know it does edgie, but the sweet sticky in the crop might contribute to food not digesting.....this was my thought anyway.  

and if they did get yb sickness, honey in the crop might not be a good thing..........it might give bacteria/infection something to live off    

I agree with david any sweet or sugary substance is the best friend of e-coli and cider vinegar will not deal or prevent it either...a lot of these natural products are in fact meddled with by man a lot of cider vinegar is pasteurized the best one you can use is the "mother" but I find lemon juice much better jmo ...I use iodine also on the day after return.

most is down to feeding no good filling y/b up with hard food in this weather or any crap meds cus ya find um puking all over basket training and learning to use that drinker will win you races and thats the biggest downfall i think with y/b not beeing taught to use the drinker

i must agree with g my ybs learn to drink out of the basket b4 they learn how to fly. races r won and lost in the basket    

usually everyday I add lemon juice from concentrate to the water. Fingers crossed but never had young birds sickness. can go a few days without, age thingy, forgetfulness. Tried all the other stuff. This works for me so will not switch.

mufc rick wrote:

what do you think is best for our birds . im trying something different with my ybs they will only get natural products Saturday after the race there first drink will be honey in water, sunday will be garlic strong then on thursday will be honey again any other times just plain water. im thinking that all these products of the shelve full of chemicals  r no good for our birds .?? wat do members think

Rick I always used Honey as the first drink the pigeons had from the race but I also used pure lemon juice with the honey

This was mixed together in the water fountain with luke warm water if you use boiling water you kill all the good bactiria in the honey and lemon

I saw a better race recovery using the honey and lemon in the water

halcanada wrote:

usually everyday I add lemon juice from concentrate to the water. Fingers crossed but never had young birds sickness. can go a few days without, age thingy, forgetfulness. Tried all the other stuff. This works for me so will not switch.

Where I worked lived an elderly fancier not to far away one day I asked if I could have a look at his pigeons he only had a small loft but his pigeons looked top quality but he did not race

I noticed in his water fountain he had pieces of sliced fresh lemon when asking him how many days his reply was until it needs replacing he also said that he had never had a pigeon become ill, but his pigeons looked in top quality condition