Looking forward to reading all your posts.

I think that is due to the family they have and if they have had the family a long time

has anyone bred a brother and sister togeather ? what did the ybs race like ? ive read about father and daughter , mother to son.... is cousins too closely related to breed from ? or uncles and aunties ?

I have, but not from same nest, older brother with younger sister, same mom and dad, They both did exellent racing , so i paired them, their chics were perfectly normal, breed 2 out of 6,wich were exellent babies from them.

niel, i bred brother and sister togeather, not through choice mind you ...and they bred a very nice yb so im waiting to see how it races as i bred it for someone else to race this season.

might do alright you never know i personaly wouldnt do this , who knows if it wins i might try it myself

bird looked great...but like you say it depends on how it races.

once bought a show racer from harrogate show years ago and it looked beutiful, couldnt even fly around the loft properly.....

David show racers are for looking at, and they never come out of the loft for exercise

you always find that show birds look a lot fatter than raqce birds

yes don they do, the one i had couldnt even fly properly....you could see and hear it struggling to fly.

the show birds are stunning condition is excellent, if only they would race

ian, the hen i had paired up to a spare w/hood cock and bred a yb off them, i raced the yb and although it was always late it did manage to get home.....cant remember what eventually happened to it....

say no more

looked nice though... felt sorry for it after a few races, think i gave it away to another club member telling him it was a good one... bet he based a family round it and still races them today...

Must agree with ian the feather quality is top

once read somewhere there is no set standards in show pigeons....dont know if its right or not.

No that is wrong

They have standards and they are different Wing, Head, Feathers, Tail ect

That is why you see different classes for show pigeons

they all look the same to me.....

They am to a racing man but to the show man they are different

wonder if they were originally bred from good looking racers bred togeather and then just breeding for looks....?over generations it might have produced good looking birds that cannot race as by selective breeding racing has been bred out of them....???

You could be right with that post David

The best one to tell you more about this subject is doug mclary who showed a good show pigeon and has written books on the subject of show pigeons

Doug writes in the weeklys and lives in New Zealand now when he lived in this contry he lived in devon

yes heard of him don, ive read some articles and in fact i have some old pictorials from the 70s where he is in them with his loft and birds....i prefer these old pictorials to the new ones out now ......