Looking forward to reading all your posts.

to be able to sell them they will have to win wont they ian ?

yes thats right vicious circle

do you introduce new stock into your loft every year ian ? and if you do how do you decide where to buy from ?

yes i put new stock in but out of my race loft ones with wins

Will agree with you Ian it is all about money

But that goes for everything now in life and sport

yes too true don its a shame tho not a poor mans sport

Yes your right Ian the poor mans sport side of it has gone know and that may be the reason why people are leaving the sport and no new blood is coming it to it also

yes i agree not poor my sport, i,m not working now and if it was not for my brother paying the bills i could not race,plus gone are the days of small teams its harder to compete with the ones who fly about 80 to 100, i used to race a small team once but had to increase it to have a 2 to 1 chance at least

yes thats right we must be mad , if you dont like someone give them a pair of pigeons

Ian i see you have a red check on your avatar, would you say reds are equaly competitive as the blue birds ?

dont know niel but i have never had a decent red yet hope he will change things

i only have blues and cheqs at the moment, but for some reason grizzles seem a strong sort of bird to me...dont know why but they do. has anyone done any good with a mealy ?

i havent but many people in our club have had some good turns with mealys

someone told me they had mealy janssens....didnt know you could get them?never seem to have seen any i dont think.... ?

Yes David you can get janssen mealy's as i had them

To get them put a red and a blue together and they should bred a mealy

Don't ever worry about the colour they can be the colour of the rainbow but as long as they win who cares

talking about colour....i have bred a blue bar many times out of two cheqs but has anyone ever bred a cheq out of two blues ? i have never done it but i am convinced it can be done.......
any thoughts anyone ?

If you line or cross breed i think you can do it??

for breeding colours the best ones to ask are the show men as they like to breed certon colours

ive had three bared pigeons and pencil blues but never a cheq......someone must have bred one?

I think you can if you are selective with your breeding

ive read a bit about colour breeding and in some cases they can even tell what sex certain colours will be...

yes some fanciers can