caffeine in products warning

understand a fancier from Liverpool has been banned for 3 years when caffeine was found in his birds droppings he had been giving his birds a product purchased from the BHW verasle laean supra pills collevette an-e-vit george

Any more details George, as this is not on the banned substance list and caffeine does occur naturally in many products, or similar substances in many plant extracts etc that are used as herbal tonics and tinctures.
RPRA Rule 199 appendix G, Paragraph 2.

2. The use in pigeons of the following are
strictly forbidden:
ANABOLIC STEROIDS, BETAAGONISTS,
CORTICO STEROIDS,
ANTI-INFLAMMATORY NON-STEROIDS,
OPIATES, ANALGESICS,
PERFORMANCE ENHANCING
STIMULANTS, SYNTHETIC
HORMONES, ANY DRUG FOUND TO
BE PERFORMANCE ENHANCING PLUS
ANY SUBSTANCE WHICH MAY BE
USED IN AN ATTEMPT TO MASK THE
ABOVE.

Versele-Laga Supra Pills, herbal velocity pills to improve the performance of Racing Pigeons.


INDICATIONS:
- Versele Laga Supra Pills are a selection of natural herbs that give an extra lash to make the pigeons fly even faster.
- Supra Pills contain cola nut and fenugreek. The cola nut is a natural source of caffeine and theobromin, two natural stimulants.
- Fenugreek is rich in iron and copper, whereby it can improve performance.

COMPOSITION:
- Juniperi fructus pulv.
- Colae semen pulv.
- Trogonella foenigraece sem. pulv.
- Aloe pulv.
- Anisi sem. pulv.
- Salviae fol. pulv.

Theobromine is an alkaloid belonging to the methylxanthines. The structure of theobromine is similar to that of caffeine.

There has to be more to it than this mate.

Cant see Versele-Laga producing a product that would contain substances on the banned list.

i agree gaz, there must be more to it......

i think it only comes into effect when the pigeon is marked for a race you can feed caffeine but you must stop so many days before a race george

you have to stop 28 days before a race rpra

I read the thread on another site. It's pathetic mate

David wrote:

i agree gaz, there must be more to it......

I would second that also David

What does get me is the amount of caffeine found in these tests its only 400 out of a billion. How the hell can this be a banning offence.
I think the RPRA need to start laying down some proper guidelines as what can and cannot be used. Instead of advertising products in their publications. Taking the money for the advertisements and then banning members for using um.

Guess I missed something?????
Feed and water Does not Enhance Race results??????Delta Albaplex is not listed
Along with other medecation.
Whats NEXT----Can't force moults for a full wing?--Pull flights?
Nothing in the Bath water
Can't fly them to 14 day old Eggs or Squabs.
Just more reasons to get out of Pigeon racing.

if caffenine is band then people will need to look close at their pigeon tea, tea hold caffeine.

Your apparently there is a banned substance list but not available to fanciers they gave it only to fed officials

i cant see any reason why it should be banned, ok you hear the old wives tale about drinking coffee late at nice keeps you awake, but as far as it being a performance enhancer im suprised at that...........

bit more on the topic fancier is Terry Kirman the droppings were sent to South Africa for testing in order for the fancier to get the B sample back he had to pay £750 the RPRA has a list of what is banned but fanciers cannot see it his son is asking fanciers to write to the letter page of the B HW on the matter just got the BHW to-day can't find the letter page will look again to-night george

bit more on the topic fancier is Terry Kirman the droppings were sent to South Africa for testing in order for the fancier to get the B sample back he had to pay £750 the RPRA has a list of what is banned but fanciers cannot see it his son is asking fanciers to write to the letter page of the B HW on the matter just got the BHW to-day can't find the letter page will look again to-night george