feeding young birds

what will members be racing their young birds on this season a high carb mix or a high protine mix

this is going to be interesting Mark so many different brands and types on offer today

I always like to use junior plus by versa laga but always fed well and always had a bag of
junior o about to beef it up when needed ....I never send ybs to a race hungry ,never raced to the tin

oldstrain wrote:

I always like to use junior plus by versa laga but always fed well and always had a bag of
junior o about to beef it up when needed ....I never send ybs to a race hungry ,never raced to the tin

Don't do like I do & buy the cheapest mix you can . $11 a bag down here & it's utter crap as my birds only flew 5 hours today here on it & my big plans for a toss went out the door "Big time"  waiting for them all to come in.

their is a el cheapo mix oz that may be up your street here but on close inspection the broken bits of maize are mouldy and quite a few peas had weevil holes so not for me ,I hope your mix is a better one nothing wrong with el cheapo as long as its clean and been well stored

oldstrain wrote:

their is a el cheapo mix oz that may be up your street here but on close inspection the broken bits of maize are mouldy and quite a few peas had weevil holes so not for me ,I hope your mix is a better one nothing wrong with el cheapo as long as its clean and been well stored

Our el cheapo mix has been passed by one of the guru's here O/S as being A OK but you have to be quick to get it etc as it disappear's pretty damm quick. But then !!!     when you have blokes buying it in 80 bag lots etc what wouldn't .

Knackered you must of got that Bag that was ment for the Horse Trainer down your way ;with some Elephant Juice in it ??????

killer wrote:

Knackered you must of got that Bag that was ment for the Horse Trainer down your way ;with some Elephant Juice in it ??????

MMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmm OK, tho I would sooner go for the elphant juice etc than the possum/rabbit trick that the greyhound boys use down here to fire up there dogs .

Have you ever tried to sneek into the zoo at night & try & Milk an Elephant to get the stuff ???? you need a Big Bucket a Tea Cup is too small & you get the Golden Spray instead ?

Simple answer to this one if you want to win and get them flying, then light mix 50% barley, if you don't care about winning feed heavy.

my ybs wernt flying last season, so I put them on bamfords depurative for a week and they soon started to fly.......I then put them on Gerry plus and they were flying good.

I agree with martyn, too heavy a mix and they wont fly, I also learnt barley is very under rated.....

Gerry  plus.
when thy start to race.
some might not agree to what we do next. but the young birds get one ounce.
and no more. till we go down to 15o miles then we increase to one and a half.

sounds good to me stormy gery plus is excellent and very light. Spot on mate.

what sort of distance are you racing out to on Gerry plus lads and would you add anything to it if it were a hard race over 200 mile or more

energy plus.
last 2 days

stormqueen wrote:

energy plus.
last 2 days

I see so extra protein and fats last 2 days ...thanks for your reply as they say many roads lead to rome atb

when you first posted It sounded like that was all you fed I did wonder

only give them energy plus.
when thy are out to 150 miles.
Gerry plus till then.
only the last 2 races in our young bird program
do I give them energy plus.

fat y/b wont fly nore will any pigeon feeding depends on the system you fly ie dark natural
if dark remember you are messing with nature forcing a bird to moult within weeks of being born
so you must feed acordingley you can expect dark pigeons to moult and fly its to much
the way i see it now and im on a new system reguarding feeding and excersise we only let our birds out in the morning always 8am weather permitting they do what they want and most of the time they fly for 30 mins no more once in there fed a full meal of redband homoform and a strong y/b mix

at the night time they are ready again for food around 4pm they are fed barley only these by the way are darkness pigeons the reason we feed barley at night is becuse they wont over eat hence they will take what they want and no more but they dont go to bed on a heavey belly so to speak from what ive seen and read y/b sickness 9 out of ten starts in the morning ie wont fly dont wana go out and not hungry its rear if ever you see y/b sick in the day the corn you fine is mostley when you open up in the morning so now we dont feed anything other than barley at night

once of the dark we will go 50 /50 morning and night they will fly longer when ready there is no rush as for mixs i think to many now read far to deep into whats on sale some breed and wean ive sean of late with top branded names would just about keep sparrows going
same with most others they claim this that and the other so would i if ya was lining my pockets but is it what they want you cant rear srtong babies on bread and wean its piss weak get some real food in um let um grow and bones be strong then adjust to make them what you want them to be

killer wrote:

Have you ever tried to sneek into the zoo at night & try & Milk an Elephant to get the stuff ???? you need a Big Bucket a Tea Cup is too small & you get the Golden Spray instead ?

I do worry some times here . The culture etc ??? that some wish to pass on with their wisdom, leaves much to ponder over or thought .

birdy2011 wrote:

fat  y/b wont fly nore will any pigeon feeding depends on the system you fly ie dark natural
if dark remember you are messing with nature forcing a bird to moult within weeks of being born
so you must feed acordingley  you can expect dark pigeons to moult and fly its to much
the way i see it now and im on a new system reguarding feeding and  excersise we only let our birds out in the morning always  8am weather permitting they do what they want and most of the time they fly for 30 mins no more once in there fed a full meal  of redband homoform and a strong y/b mix

at the night time they are ready again for food around 4pm they are fed barley only these by the way are darkness pigeons the reason we feed barley at night is becuse  they wont over eat hence they will take what they want and no more but they dont go to bed on a heavey belly so to speak from what ive seen and read y/b sickness 9 out of ten starts in the morning ie wont fly dont wana go out and not hungry its rear if ever you see y/b sick in the day the corn you fine is mostley when you open up in the morning so now we dont feed anything other than barley at night

once of the dark we will go 50 /50 morning and night  they will fly longer when ready there is no rush as for mixs i think to many now read far to deep into whats on sale some breed and wean ive sean of late with top branded names would just about keep sparrows going
same  with most others they claim this that and the other so would i if ya was lining my pockets but is it what they want you cant rear srtong babies on bread and wean its  piss weak get some real food in um let um grow and  bones be strong then adjust  to make them what you want them to be

Good read G again. Especially the last few para graph's etc. Us pigeon flyers     really do try at times to make things so much harder for ourselves, than is required I suspect.

Rudderfett wrote:

Simple answer to this one if you want to win and get them flying, then light mix 50% barley, if you don't care about winning feed heavy.

Spot on Martyn

birdy2011 wrote:

fat  y/b wont fly nore will any pigeon feeding depends on the system you fly ie dark natural
if dark remember you are messing with nature forcing a bird to moult within weeks of being born
so you must feed acordingley  you can expect dark pigeons to moult and fly its to much
the way i see it now and im on a new system reguarding feeding and  excersise we only let our birds out in the morning always  8am weather permitting they do what they want and most of the time they fly for 30 mins no more once in there fed a full meal  of redband homoform and a strong y/b mix

at the night time they are ready again for food around 4pm they are fed barley only these by the way are darkness pigeons the reason we feed barley at night is becuse  they wont over eat hence they will take what they want and no more but they dont go to bed on a heavey belly so to speak from what ive seen and read y/b sickness 9 out of ten starts in the morning ie wont fly dont wana go out and not hungry its rear if ever you see y/b sick in the day the corn you fine is mostley when you open up in the morning so now we dont feed anything other than barley at night

once of the dark we will go 50 /50 morning and night  they will fly longer when ready there is no rush as for mixs i think to many now read far to deep into whats on sale some breed and wean ive sean of late with top branded names would just about keep sparrows going
same  with most others they claim this that and the other so would i if ya was lining my pockets but is it what they want you cant rear srtong babies on bread and wean its  piss weak get some real food in um let um grow and  bones be strong then adjust  to make them what you want them to be

Great read G your right with the feeding your youngsters loads but that's the problem for most fanciers they don't want to feed there youngsters to little as they want them to grow and mature right.

for me its about getting the balance right