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PostSubject: Darkness system ?????   Darkness system ????? EmptyMon Mar 08, 2010 8:38 pm

recieved my two ybs from ian for the exchange thursday, i puts his ybs straight onto the dark from weaning and when i looked at the cock it had started to show signs of moulting already around the chest and along the side of the wing near the bar......

the thing is i havnt got them or my own on the dark yet but ians exchange birds are still showing signs of continuing to moult, which makes me wonder that if we start the premature moult by simulating winter hours do we need to keep them on it for 11 - 12 weeks or so.........? can we just start them off moulting and then keep the loft open as normal and they will continue to moult....? scratch
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PostSubject: Re: Darkness system ?????   Darkness system ????? EmptyMon Mar 08, 2010 8:47 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Darkness system ?????   Darkness system ????? EmptyMon Mar 08, 2010 8:50 pm

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have i said something you dont understand ray .....?

the question i am asking is that how come a yb which has obviously started the moult by being placed onto the dark system is moved to another loft which is not on the dark , but continues to moult..........

why is this...?
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PostSubject: Re: Darkness system ?????   Darkness system ????? EmptyMon Mar 08, 2010 9:05 pm

Very Happy david those are very interesting questions, If a youngster has started to moult will it continue even if taken off darkness, I would like to kow that too. Idea
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PostSubject: Re: Darkness system ?????   Darkness system ????? EmptyMon Mar 08, 2010 9:11 pm

hi martyn, yes i went into yb section today and there was quite a few small feathers in the drinker with others around the loft floor.......looking at the young cock hes still showing signs of moulting and there is even the new small feathers growing on the side of his wings.

ive never had dark ybs before so its interesting to see this happening......... Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Darkness system ?????   Darkness system ????? EmptyTue Mar 09, 2010 6:05 pm

At the moment the young birds are on natural darkness 12 hours day light 12 hours darkness, my own young birds are beginning to moult in the body, i only put mine on darkness when the clock goes forward to compensate for the longer days, just my way and opinion I then take them off on the longest day
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PostSubject: Re: Darkness system ?????   Darkness system ????? EmptyTue Mar 09, 2010 7:00 pm

i thought dark young had only 8 hours of light not 12,thats what i was told so this is new to me
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PostSubject: Re: Darkness system ?????   Darkness system ????? EmptyTue Mar 09, 2010 7:11 pm

Hi Ray, u can have the hours you want what u are happy with, all i am saying at the momment they have been on natural darkness, the days have really only just started getting longer, this is why early bred younguns start to go into body moult before you place them onto the darkness system
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i was planning on opening at 8 oclock and closing at 4 oclock........as this is roughly the hours of light in winter. scratch
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PostSubject: Re: Darkness system ?????   Darkness system ????? EmptyTue Mar 09, 2010 8:14 pm

That would be fine david
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thanks ken, will stick to this then and see what happens............. lol! lol! lol!
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Wink everyones on darkness... scratch
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PostSubject: Re: Darkness system ?????   Darkness system ????? EmptyThu Mar 11, 2010 6:18 pm

sorting y/b section for darkness this weekend
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PostSubject: Re: Darkness system ?????   Darkness system ????? EmptyThu Mar 11, 2010 9:38 pm

think ive got my method of darkening sorted now, will see what ken thinks when he comes to mine this sunday.............. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Darkness system ?????   Darkness system ????? EmptyFri Mar 12, 2010 5:56 am

more reads ups for us then
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PostSubject: Re: Darkness system ?????   Darkness system ????? EmptyFri Mar 12, 2010 7:08 am

ive been doing this nine year and to be honest theres nothing complicated about it eight hours of daylight everyday thats it , you either on it or not ,but to compete i feel you must be on it
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PostSubject: Re: Darkness system ?????   Darkness system ????? EmptyFri Mar 12, 2010 7:25 am

yes you have too,if not you will only be dissapointed like i was getting beat every week
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PostSubject: Re: Darkness system ?????   Darkness system ????? EmptyFri Mar 12, 2010 9:25 am

Will agree with the comments, to give you a better chance you have to be using it
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PostSubject: Re: Darkness system ?????   Darkness system ????? EmptyFri Mar 12, 2010 9:09 pm

was reading rp weekly where fancier said yb racing means nothing........ scratch maybe he has other prioraties re pigeon racing and prefers obs or other types of racing but i dont think you can dismiss results obtained by ybs if they do well......... scratch
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PostSubject: Re: Darkness system ?????   Darkness system ????? EmptyFri Mar 12, 2010 9:12 pm

younbird racing is your schooling of your youngbirds they need this for exsperience its a must doesnt know what hes talking about scratch scratch
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ill be happy to race ybs and if they did well recognise they had done.......it gives some indication of their worth surely...... scratch
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yes your right in doing so
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PostSubject: Re: Darkness system ?????   Darkness system ????? EmptyFri Mar 12, 2010 9:26 pm

wonder if anyones ybs have done rubbish as a yb but done very well as obs.....?
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PostSubject: Re: Darkness system ?????   Darkness system ????? EmptyFri Mar 12, 2010 9:29 pm

some birds dont show until yearling stage but are steady as youngbirds they keep you guessing scratch scratch
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PostSubject: Re: Darkness system ?????   Darkness system ????? EmptyFri Mar 12, 2010 10:28 pm

Very Happy David years ago I had a bird which was always last in training and racing, it did however keep coming home, as a yearling it was also rubbish, so as a 2 year old tried to loose it and it flew 2 over sea races in very good time, it also bred very good babies. Very Happy
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