pigeons/ bathing

got my voice back now ian...
where did you get your first birds ian when you started again ? and do you introduce new stock every year ?

david when i first started i got stock from skinning grove where some good fliers are but as the years have gone by i have filtered them out as they wouldnt compete in our club i have bought some off a top flier in our fed and replaced the stock i now put winners in stock loft and pair best to best just starting to get a good a good team together now

how many years do you think it takes to get established and have a good team of birds ? do you have any thoughts on eyesign ian, do you consider it when pairing up ?

no dont look at eyesign and time you cant put on depends on the fancier and a lot of luck of picking the right birds from the off , all i can say david is try and get pigeons from somebody who is doing it in your area and you,ll not go far wrong

would they want someone they are going to compete against having their bloodlines ?
ive often seen birds for sale and they state that it has bred this and that and bred winners, but i wouldnt sell good pigeons that had won or bred winners....

what would be the best birds to buy do you think, birds off a flyer who wins himself...or birds off a flyer who has bred birds to win for other people ? or is it basically the same thing ?

If you are going to buy the, best thing for me is to buy a round of late breds of the winning team of pigeons sometimes you can get the eggs which the widowhood team are sitting for next to nothing but you will not know what they are from

you are interested in eyesign arnt you don, im going to try and get jack barkels permission to post one of his articles onto the site....it is in depth info that i have read many times and is very interesting for eyesign enthusiasts.....

Great David i look forward to seeing this if jack says yes

david just get birds locally dont have to get off members who you fly against

Dont know,have no clue

grow up niel

You like to piss me off , think you are mr. know it all.
Why did you try to ruined my toppic mr grownup??

so you like to swear aswell didnt mean anything by it but if thats the way you feel fine

Respect arent a one way traffic

by the way dont claim to know it all still just learning if i knew it all then i would be a top flier iam still just a novice like yourself with lots to learn but like to give people ideas you dont have to take or ask any advise its up to yourself what you do ,but i can give my opinion

Do what you like, that suit you.

whats been going on!!! do we need moderators to keep you lot apart...

just a misunderstanding niel took something the wrong way

difference of opinion is healthy....we cant agree all the time can we .....

yes david if we were all yhe same then it would be a boring world

all fanciers have their own ideas on how to manage their pigeons so if we dissagree with each other thats ok and maybe if thats the case we can give the reason why we dont think the same....but sometimes we can hear a bit of advise of someone and that could be the missing piece of the jigsaw that we needed to make us a winner.....

lets keep our opinions coming.....

not a truer word said david

Niel If you do not have a clue as to what is being said just explain yourself or explain what it is you want to know and surely one of use can help

David you can also get pigeons from top fancier in your federation also

yes i agre don, it would be a good source.....and ive heard of such fanciers who have given and been happy to, the only thing is that the top men round where i live wont give you the time of day unless there is something in it for them....