hi, new member....

not if its just run down

flying ok for about three quarters of an hour, eating ok as well. dont know if its nebbing/beaking as it seems to be paired to its brother...?

incest

havnt yo paired brother and sister together ian ? a pair of mine did last year so i left them....they werent nest mates but they were brother and sister and they bred a nice yb...

never david have paired same family but miss a generation

have read that if you have a good cock, the best way to reproduce it is to pair to his daughter....and then pair to the daughter of them. this will give you near the same bird...or so they say ???

never heard of that interesting

David if you have a pigeon which is low in it's self from being out a few days

For me i would put the pigeon in a basket and give it a worm and coccidiosis tablet and just watch the pigeon for 2 to 3 days just to make sure the pigeon is ok to go into the loft without passing anything onto the other pigeons in the loft

Remember watch a film by Rob Adams called the Up North Combine and there was a part which visited Louella Lofts showing you Parkside Superman and Michael even says to keep the blood, Parkside Superman would be paired to his own daughters to help maintain his blood lines

Even the top studs pair the family's close together

dont you mean rod adams don know him well also got pigeons from parkside lofts as they are only down the road from me parkside superman was the property of john soderland he is our fed secretary

Pairing up close has advantages, and disadvantages, the good genes get concentrated , but sometimes bad genes also, in other words, some babies would be exellent, while others would be worth nothing.
I know a fancier that have paired up mother son x 6 times , to get the same type as the mother, the last baby have webs between the toes, as of all the inbreeding. He told me he have big plans for the webed footed hen.
Didnt we all have our strategies? that was my thought.

like i say niel many roads you do what works for you

Grizzle cock wrote:

Pairing up close has advantages, and disadvantages, the good genes get concentrated , but sometimes bad genes also, in other words, some babies would be exellent, while others would be worth nothing.
I know a fancier that have paired up mother son x 6 times , to get the same type as the mother, the last baby have webs between the toes, as of all the inbreeding. He told me he have big plans for the webed footed hen.
Didnt we all have our strategies? that was my thought.

yes niel, i agree that they will either breed good or bad traits into them, but i dont think it matters too much with pigeons as if they are no good or have inherited bad faults they will just go in the bin...

thats right david at end of the year they have to go if they dont make the grade

yes ian, ive realised that it doesnt matter what they look like, breed ybs off them and race them.....if they win they are good, if they dont get rid.

yes david hard sometimes but you cant keep everything

Hi Ian do you still have the parkside pigeons???

Ian the cock bird in your picture has he got the parkside blood in it

Ian must say john is a good flyer so the competition in your area is very high and if you can beat john you am well in front

the pigeons i have bought of parkside lofts dont thing they are off the superman blood altho not sure as i didnt get the pedigrees with them

however all good pigeons off john as i top the fed and won the youngbird national with daughter of the ones i bought

have you got any of the same blood in your yb team this season ian ?

yes i have david fingers crossed for the national

yes fingers crossed ian, yb averages as well...