hi, new member....

david dont think this would have been the problem think it could have been a health problem david

mmmmmmmm, treated before pairing for canker, cocci etc......sometimes the eggs hatched and other times they didnt, and it was the same birds.

were the eggs fresh david

how do you mean ian ?

do you hold them up to the light after about six days to see if they are fertilized

no, didnt think....when i took the last two out that didnt hatch i forgot they were real and thought they were plastic and rolled them round in my hand and smashed them....they were just like a hens egg with yolk in them, no sign of a growing yb...

not fertilized didnt tred the hen properly sometimes when he treds the other cocks knock him off hence not fertilized if you hold them up to light after six days you can see the blood veins in them if not you can take them off them so your not waiting eighteen days for nothing

yes,should have done it ian but didnt bother....will the hen still lay if not tread by a cock ?

yes but they will be fresh

could have saved sitting all them days...took them away so they would lay again...

yes thats right david could have had more youngbirds never mind

ill need to get my act togeather for next year ian, i will most likely start with ybs so if i can get about 24/26 hopefully that should get me a start.....and whatever i am left with at the end of the season will race as obs.

think thats the right way to go david

ive one more section of my loft to repair and fit out with perches so ill need to get on with it before winter, ive made a start on painting the outside using some green wood colour stuff that seems ok and makes it look alot tidier...

yes david get cracking time fly,s literally

i know ian, left it to the last minute last year and didnt get finished.

david when you pair up let the birds have eggs the treat them for what ever

i have read a lot of top flyers treat when theyare on eggs to prevent any problem with the eggs??

doesnt everyone treat before you pair up if they dont then i think they should i always do and never have any problems

thats you Ian, people do things different if we all did things the same then racing would not be the same

It's only ideas or comments which may help someone to solve a problem

i treat my birds when i think they need treat,if i think there is something wrong i get them checked over then treat, i never treat blind thats the trouble these days people panic now if they are not winning sometimes they the birds not not good enough on the day

i agree with ray, fanciers are too keen to get the antibiotics out....some cant wait to give medication even without knowing what they are treating for.....

My opinion, get them healthy before breading, no meds during breeding,chicks need to build some resistance.

yes your right about treating blind but i bet when people get them checked out before they pair up after winter break i bet 9 times out of ten they have coxi canker and possibly worms ,