IF YOU HAD TO START AGAIN

Hi im looking at getting 3 maybe 4 pair of stock to start up again,i would like to keep this to one maybe two strains/familys i have 3 familys in mind and still need to narrow it down by one family im hoping to race these at club level from 75-250 miles with maybe half a dozen chucks over the water [up to 500mile] at a later date before i make my mind up id like to see what you guys would do in the same position please ......yours in sport pete

read up on the strains you want then look to see who is winning at national level with them they may not be cheap but you might get a nice kit of late breds to breed from before you decide be sure the person is genuin and not out to empty your pocket

hi pete, if it was me i would read up on all the results and see which breeds/strains keep cropping up, then i`d find out who had the best lines of these and who is winning against stiff oposition, and also breeding winners for other fanciers.......id then set out to obtain the best he could possibly supply you with. JMO

I'd probably look out 3 or 4 strains that are all sprint/middle types,
Buschearts, Van Loons, Van Reets, Herman Cuesters.
They would be my chioce's and take a good look at who is flying them well,then ask if you can go have a look and handle them, then when you've seen all 4 go for the 2 Strains you prefer.
Distance birds they are a different thing all together.

i will probably do the same but 2 of the strains im looking at are older strains that seem a bit thin on the ground in result sheets i know im a sentimental old bugger but these have always been favourites of mine kirkpatriks to name one and the other ive seen for sale on uk pigeon sales but you dont seem to directly hear of them winning they either dont win or get swallowed up as jansens

I started up again last year, but fortunately for me I still had access to some of my old original racers which my mate had in his stock loft

Gaz b wrote:

I started up again last year, but fortunately for me I still had access to some of my old original racers which my mate had in his stock loft

thats an ideal situation gaz

if you have a small set up then i would defintely go for a all round type of pigeon like busschaerts or wildermersch or something like that...a strain which has been tested racing in our harsh conditions ,the name is not of importance their are good and bad in all of them

It is mate and I didnt know he still had um. lol
But fingers crossed I can pick up where I left off.
But non were pure bred anything and all were results of crossing different breeds from totally unrelated stock.

I'll agree with that Darren

Gaz b wrote:

It is mate and I didnt know he still had um. lol
But fingers crossed I can pick up where I left off.
But non were pure bred anything and all were results of crossing different breeds from totally unrelated stock.

I'll agree with that Darren

ggod luck with them gaz

Cheers mate

if i started again, id have a small amount of stock, from a decent flyer, and take about 4 rounds off each to try

if i started again i would do what i,m doing now,i sat still far too long with the same birds,i would continue to buy ,buy ,buy.i have learned in the last few years you cannot sit still with pigeons,you have to go with the crowd if you want ot progress...i wish i ,d done it then what i,m doing now....

We started back again last year with young birds we got some Van Reets and some Willy Thas and a couple of Vandenbelle hens we had the Van Reets in 1990 when we started so we new they will do wot we want them to and the Thas are of a top flyer who is a freind who won loads with them but he has had a clearence sale so they have all gone but we have of his best birds and they have bred winners for us.

EssexSteve wrote:

I'd probably look out 3 or 4 strains that are all sprint/middle types,
Buschearts, Van Loons, Van Reets, Herman Cuesters.
They would be my chioce's and take a good look at who is flying them well,then ask if you can go have a look and handle them, then when you've seen all 4 go for the 2 Strains you prefer.
Distance birds they are a different thing all together.

this is best bit of advice i read on this thread
van reets seem to be a inbreed again this year every where you go people want them and selling them
buschearts best family ever IMO win from 60 to 600miles
van loons good honest pigeons
cuesters are new name doing well
just see what local people winning with and choose 2 and then blend to make your own
always add 1 or 2 new birds in each year to keep trying to achieve better

fletch wrote:

EssexSteve wrote:

I'd probably look out 3 or 4 strains that are all sprint/middle types,
Buschearts, Van Loons, Van Reets, Herman Cuesters.
They would be my chioce's and take a good look at who is flying them well,then ask if you can go have a look and handle them, then when you've seen all 4 go for the 2 Strains you prefer.
Distance birds they are a different thing all together.

this is best bit of advice i read on this thread
van reets seem to be a inbreed again this year every where you go people want them and selling them
buschearts best family ever IMO win from 60 to 600miles
van loons good honest pigeons
cuesters are new name doing well
just see what local people winning with and choose 2 and then blend to make your own
always add 1 or 2 new birds in each year to keep trying to achieve better

Agree Lee

If it sptint bird you want the the "Stickers Donker" pigeons am the ones

Don Webb wrote:

If it sptint bird you want the the "Stickers Donker" pigeons am the ones

had these birds done nowt with them in my club sorry had a 2nd..

I think the first thing to think about would be how much time you had ;where you lived in relationship to its members ?Try & build up two familys of pigeons that raced well straight & crossed with each other ;this will help you latter down the track ;no need to go chasing birds from tom dick or harry has you would have the cross there ;once you have decided on what you are going to race ;then learn how they must be feed ?has far has who has the best this & that ;check out who is the Top flyer in your Fed ;go along & see how they do it ;then look out side of your Fed & see who's doing well & with what ? cheers

michael7792 wrote:

Don Webb wrote:

If it sptint bird you want the the "Stickers Donker" pigeons am the ones

had these birds done nowt with them in my club sorry had a 2nd..

There are good and bad pigeons in every strain it is the same old thing pay your money take your chance.

If I was starting out to race seriously again (rather than just having these 2 pair for interest now) I wouldn't really bother about breeds/strains. For example if it was inland birds then I'd get from lads that had been winning with there own families for years, fanciers always up there in big birdages. Get pigeons off winners paired to winners or winners paired to brothers and sisters of winners. And by winners I dont mean 1st club 40 birds when 3 members sending most weeks.
Do your homework. Fanciers who can tell you all about the races won by the ancestors of those you've gone to buy, pigeons they bred themselves, and in some instances show you them 10 years and older still in their loft, not pigeons bred down off birds never even seen a basket or outside of a loft for 3 or 4 generations.

I'd keep away from someone who had more prisoner stock than race birds and get them from where they had to earn their perch through results, not by having fancy names on their pedigrees.

Good and bad in all strains and good un's even harder to find if you're just buying names.
On the other hand good fanciers are easier to find, so this is where I'd start again.

Best wishes for xmas and 2013 everybody.

good advice barnie atb