Inbreeding, any good?

thats what i dont mind father to daughter its sister to brother iam not sure about

John my number 1 pair are now 8 years old they have bred 17 x 1st so to keep the blood i have inbred these will go back into stock to keep that blood line strong, just like ur uncle and u have done ur self and if i can still produce pigeons of the likes of stormqueen 15years down the line then i would be happy
Ken

Ian to get back to the original line u need to put brother and sister together, these will be for stock only you then cross them back into the family to keep the line going and these are the ones u race
Ken

hi ken, dont know if you read about me losing the blue stock cock which is the father of "david", how can i try to keep this same blood without diluting it into the rest of the pigeons who are not related ? all i have out of him is a son and two daughters and the mother, what would you do.....?

Dave to get back to the original put brother to sister, this will give u back the line to cross back into the family next year, dont race the offspring of the brother sister pairing but put them straight to stock
Ken

friendsloft wrote:

Dave to get back to the original put brother to sister, this will give u back the line to cross back into the family next year, dont race the offspring of the brother sister pairing but put them straight to stock
Ken

right, so if i put the bro to sis, keep the young from them.....what do i pair these to next year ?

Next year you pair son to mother if you breed a cock put him to one of his half sisters, this will then give you ur foundation of ur fsmily
Ken

youve lost me ken, think its me.....not thinking straight tonight, ill re-read what youve said another time......

Ken

and im expecting to race pigeons ken..... it will be like a circus act come yb season.....

You will be fine David
Ken

in fact its like a circus act now.........

ive got 2 herman cocks father and son both paired to bert brasspennings hens nest mates, father loaned to me this year, to get father as base for stock, which would be best to pr son or this years y/bs to next year

Steve these herman cocks that are paired to the brasspenning hens did u breed of them last year
Ken

Looks like i have hit the jackpot with the brother and sister pairing but that is the only way you can keep the blood strong and with the young us them to breed into your family

Thanks Stormqueen (John) for your comment nice to know my information is apprcieated

This way of breeding was used by louella lofts years ago

Does anyone remember the "Up North Combine" film on channel 4 in the 1980's with Rod Adams

They are at Louella's and Micheal has got Parkside Superman in his hand showing the fanciers, and he says when being filmed with this fanciers

He has been paired to his own daughters to keep his blood strong just the same with brother and sister just stronger

Don i dont think u will convince them , that it is the only way to keep the bloodline strong, most of the big studs breed this way other wise they would soon dilute the lines
Ken

The thing to remember with breeding is the genetics, youngsters have 25% father,25% mother, and 50% will be unique. So brother and sister mating will always have this. That means you can only ever be 50% pure from original characteristics, so that 50 % uniqueness could be good or bad.

good post martyn, interesting reading......

that;s the reason david it;s only the best proven gene pull to use.

Cheers for the comments Ken nice one thanks

Martyn top reading and it gives us all something to think about