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Don Webb Oldbird
Posts : 14926 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 51 Location : Tipton
| Subject: Re: Inbreeding, any good? Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:57 pm | |
| Yes you are right John it is all about gene pull |
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Don Webb Oldbird
Posts : 14926 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 51 Location : Tipton
| Subject: Re: Inbreeding, any good? Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:01 am | |
| If you look in the homing world Jim (edgmand not sure of surname sorry) who's only interest was barcelona his best pigeon had the top pigeons in his pedigree several times to hold the blood and the blood is still winning now |
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steve1952 Youngbird
Posts : 2459 Join date : 2009-12-01 Age : 71 Location : Newport isle of wight
| Subject: Re: Inbreeding, any good? Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:11 am | |
| - friendsloft wrote:
- Steve these herman cocks that are paired to the brasspenning hens did u breed of them last year
Ken top flyer in club gave me 2 cocks 1 van reet other herman 2008 late bred won 3 races 2009 he loaned me sire of 2008 late bred to breed this year, he wants sire back after breeding, hes a 2004 bird |
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IANYOUNG Oldbird
Posts : 11428 Join date : 2009-03-30 Age : 60 Location : south shields
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peel bros Oldbird
Posts : 13064 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 59 Location : south shields
| Subject: Re: Inbreeding, any good? Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:36 pm | |
| going back to this inbreeding thing,i do not do it anyway but i would like to know if anyone on here has had success with it ,or even know anyone who has.it would be interesting to know if they have. |
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steve1952 Youngbird
Posts : 2459 Join date : 2009-12-01 Age : 71 Location : Newport isle of wight
| Subject: Re: Inbreeding, any good? Tue Feb 09, 2010 5:00 pm | |
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IANYOUNG Oldbird
Posts : 11428 Join date : 2009-03-30 Age : 60 Location : south shields
| Subject: Re: Inbreeding, any good? Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:07 pm | |
| do you mean your wife |
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friendsloft Youngbird
Posts : 1999 Join date : 2009-03-17 Age : 65 Location : Warrington
| Subject: Re: Inbreeding, any good? Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:33 pm | |
| Ray im sure Lightning as had success with in breeding, what i am inbreeding this year are for stock only, but i will try one of them racing this y/b season to see how it does, Ken |
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friendsloft Youngbird
Posts : 1999 Join date : 2009-03-17 Age : 65 Location : Warrington
| Subject: Re: Inbreeding, any good? Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:41 pm | |
| Steve see if you can borrow a daughter of the sire cock he as loaned you then pair her to him or is late bred son you have Ken |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43225 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: Inbreeding, any good? Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:48 pm | |
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steve1952 Youngbird
Posts : 2459 Join date : 2009-12-01 Age : 71 Location : Newport isle of wight
| Subject: Re: Inbreeding, any good? Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:50 pm | |
| - ian wrote:
- do you mean your wife
no mate who took me to south shields, helped to build lofts i bought everything including birds, made him partner for helping, since then he bought a shed for 2nd y/b loft just for this year next year stock birds going in it |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43225 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: Inbreeding, any good? Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:54 pm | |
| - steve1952 wrote:
- ian wrote:
- do you mean your wife
no mate who took me to south shields, helped to build lofts i bought everything including birds, made him partner for helping, since then he bought a shed for 2nd y/b loft just for this year next year stock birds going in it so whats up steve ?is he still a partner or have you sacked him.......? |
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steve1952 Youngbird
Posts : 2459 Join date : 2009-12-01 Age : 71 Location : Newport isle of wight
| Subject: Re: Inbreeding, any good? Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:55 pm | |
| - friendsloft wrote:
- Steve see if you can borrow a daughter of the sire cock he as loaned you then pair her to him or is late bred son you have
Ken hes breeding me a pr of y/bs off 96 cock grandsire to 2008 late bred cock sire to late breds sire and a pr of mardon van reets to race as y/bs then stock, its these that he loses as yearlings |
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friendsloft Youngbird
Posts : 1999 Join date : 2009-03-17 Age : 65 Location : Warrington
| Subject: Re: Inbreeding, any good? Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:01 pm | |
| What u will need to do for next year if you have the hens left pair them back to the cocks u have now, brother to sister this will give you back the bloodline put these to stock as ur foundation of this bloodline Ken |
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steve1952 Youngbird
Posts : 2459 Join date : 2009-12-01 Age : 71 Location : Newport isle of wight
| Subject: Re: Inbreeding, any good? Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:04 pm | |
| still partner for now but took loft keys off him, a few things hes doing wrong told him about each a few times 1 parking car right upto loft were bottom loft near gates parking space just outside, council run compound 8 lofts they cut grass, no grass round loft car dug it up a mess 2 takes dog to loft told him a few times not too let loose running round compound when flyers have birds out, dog wont touch them but birds dont know 3 grandkids he cant control them aged 3 and 5 running round told him no dogs no kids wanting to take them in loft, since saturday birds been a pain to get in upto saturday coming in well, 3 go on house roof now didnt last week, think hes been to loft with dog or kids been to loft 2 times today this morning he took dog i made him tie it to gate, this afternoon he brought grandaughter birds out both times so took keys off him, told him partnership off if he brings them again |
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steve1952 Youngbird
Posts : 2459 Join date : 2009-12-01 Age : 71 Location : Newport isle of wight
| Subject: Re: Inbreeding, any good? Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:05 pm | |
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Don Webb Oldbird
Posts : 14926 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 51 Location : Tipton
| Subject: Re: Inbreeding, any good? Wed Feb 10, 2010 9:01 am | |
| Steve i would follow Ken's advice you can then use the blood in your own loft |
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Don Webb Oldbird
Posts : 14926 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 51 Location : Tipton
| Subject: Re: Inbreeding, any good? Wed Feb 10, 2010 9:03 am | |
| Steve you could even exchange the youngsters, two racing methods are better than one mate |
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Don Webb Oldbird
Posts : 14926 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 51 Location : Tipton
| Subject: Re: Inbreeding, any good? Wed Feb 10, 2010 9:07 am | |
| Hers one for you Steve, going back in time here 1989 was 2nd club 700 birds, 2nd Fed 10,000+ birds and was beat by an old fancier who had not won a race for over 20 years but he exchanged pigeons like you and the 50% mix of his own and new blood worked Hope this helps and works for you to with the exchange |
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