new for 2018

here's my first little one of 2018. looks like he's gonna be the only one from the first round, this cold snap did in all the other eggs, still have one pair on eggs but i'm not very hopeful. hit the reset button and try again.

got to just keep at it morb, we all get setbacks ........good luck with the others

hope things work out next time around for you morb

some things are out of your control pal, best of luck with rest

We had a few cold snaps here. Few days of minus 32 then go up then down again. Some hens sit tight others do not. Hens that have sat in the Winter previous had no problem. Hatched them Dec 28th. Flying out again today. 4th time. 3 months old. Some cocks cooing around hens. Not flying too long. Still unsure of their suroundings. The others also weaned are of different ages. Helps keep the older ones grounded somewhat. Have 33 over and will move some more this weekend. Lots of feral pigeons around. They have young in the nest also I beleive.

we're supposed to have positive temps next week, so round 2 should be good, the joys of winter breeding

David wrote:

got to just keep at it morb, we all get setbacks ........good luck with the others

True Pigeons/Life part of the package etc I suggest David for the average type folk. Unless one is a big fan of the tooth fairy brigade or believes what on reads in the glossy magazines or on TV as such .

Whats the advantage of winter breeding in those temps ? Even if you have a reasonable
hatch.
How soon does yb racing start and finish?

fieldwalker wrote:

Whats the advantage of winter breeding in those temps ? Even if you have a reasonable
hatch.
How soon does yb racing start and finish?

I send to one loft races so they need to a month old by end of April or so. I only have one that could go so I’m not gonna bother this year

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Advantages and disadvantages. Early bred and weaned young much older by a few months, More mature. Darkening or light system easily manipulated if needed. Young birds on the nest middle of racing season. Stronger birds usually. If loft not heated. As regards extremes in weather etc,. I assume would be the opposite in the hot countries? Do not know.
Disadvantages. Non-proven winter breeders is chancy. Chilled eggs, low hatch rate. Snow in loft unless loft is tight. But not a problem as all is frozen. Warms up good clean out needed. Heated waterers a must. No fun battling through a few feet of snow to feed the birds. Full hoppers still not a solution as they only eat what they want. Does one advantage outwiegh the other? Up to each individual to decide.

For every example of something going wrong you will have another saying exactly the opposite, and it worked for them.

As for winter breeding, or early breeding, we have young wood pigeons in the garden now, which must have incubated in tne worst period of frost etc; we have had for years, at this time of year.

When I had completely open loft with young and old together the odd couple did breed and hatch but the majority did not, during the worst weather.

There never has been nor ever will be anyone that knows all the answers but one learns most from ones own actual experiences which are undeniable.


Regards.

MISTY wrote:

For every example of something going wrong you will have another saying exactly the opposite, and it worked for them.

As for winter breeding, or early breeding, we have young wood pigeons in the garden now, which must have incubated in tne worst period of frost etc; we have had for years, at this time of year.

When I had completely open loft with young and old together the odd couple did breed and hatch but the majority did not, during the worst weather.

There never has been nor ever will be anyone that knows all the answers but one learns most from ones own actual experiences which are undeniable.


Regards.

Couldn't agree more Misty There are so called experts     & there are experts out there etc telling us all how things should be done, but the experience with ones own birds as such, puts many of them in the know nothing type category     & no better than us normal folk I suggest .

I AGREE 100% also. Was in with the birds today. Minor snowstorm. Spent some time with them. Today I learned a little more about them. Small things keep popping up. How to utilise them? Some can some cannot.

halcanada wrote:

I AGREE 100% also. Was in with the birds today. Minor snowstorm. Spent some time with them. Today I learned a little more about them. Small things keep popping up. How to utilise them? Some can some cannot.

Best you stop agreeing with me Hal I suggest or we could just turn this forum here into a power type of forum, smoking pot etc between the 2 of us as such & old Misty here    .

Darn! Was looking for advice on how to grow pot plants. Know the basics as have grown them before.
Morb. That stuff you grow out there. Camalina? They are trying that here. Know anything about it? Supposewd to be better than Soy.

halcanada wrote:

Darn! Was looking for advice on how to grow pot plants. Know the basics as have grown them before.
Morb. That stuff you grow out there. Camalina? They are trying that here. Know anything about it? Supposewd to be better than Soy.

haven't heard of it before. guys just started growing soy around for the first time last year, mostly we see canola and oats around here

the 2 eggs i didn't think would hatch because they got chilled hatched today. got 3 young ones now

morb wrote:

halcanada wrote:

Darn! Was looking for advice on how to grow pot plants. Know the basics as have grown them before.
Morb. That stuff you grow out there. Camalina? They are trying that here. Know anything about it? Supposewd to be better than Soy.

haven't heard of it before. guys just started growing soy around for the first time last year, mostly we see canola and oats around here

Time to make a farmer friend     I suggest Morb Canola & oats 2 of my favourite feeds etc .

Got lots of farmer friends, I also work at an oat processing plant so I get pealed oats and organic screenings.

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Got lots of farmer friends, I also work at an oat processing plant so I get pealed oats and organic screenings.

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Cheap, cheap I hope Morb . Organic screenings how about educating an old fella here what that is etc .

screening are the byproduct from cleaning grain, stuff like weed seeds, wild mustard, wheat, lentils etc become the screenings. i like the organic screening because they are heavier having more wheat and other grains in the mix, conventional screenings are usually lighter because the herbicides used kill off all the weeds so less good stuff in it. hope that makes sense.

i use a lot of pealed oats and screenings during the winter ans switch to pellets once breeding season rolls around

morb wrote:

screening are the byproduct from cleaning grain, stuff like weed seeds, wild mustard, wheat, lentils etc become the screenings. i like the organic screening because they are heavier having more wheat and other grains in the mix, conventional screenings are usually lighter because the herbicides used kill off all the weeds  so less good stuff in it. hope that makes sense.

i use a lot of pealed oats and screenings during the winter ans switch to pellets once breeding season rolls around

Ok Interesting Morb, especially the differance between organic & the conventional screenings issue etc.
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Its called Runch here but i dont think any pigeon men use it now,i know a local who gets it as a wild bird feed for a local reserve.
Its not organic here tho pity.

We used Runch for the finches, used to dry it out on mesh screens then riddle it to get the chaff out. Always for free at the farms.

Aye thats it barney do the same here at Boldon Flats.