Moan and do NOTHING.

Misty. I do not know the ins and outs of the deal. Mankind will not change. Everyone in any office drawing a good salary will fight for their benefits. Religion does not rule any more. Many religions were opportunities for power. The world is a mess but always has been. Trump and the wall? Newly discovered tunnel today. About the 5th. China holding Canadians. t*t for tat. Irish have had a problem for years. Southern and Northen. Have sailed with people from both. Years ago. There consensus was join both and quit the shit. IRA etc,. But still goes on I assume.
The way to change anything, has been said on here many times. Minds of the masses. How would one invigorate them? Outstanding leader/talker/or very famous person? As happened but nowadays not too many come forward with those credentials. Now. If it so happens that a UK or European guy wins the SA million dollar race then that should be publicised to the fullest extent. Or bred there. Hammer it on whatever media available. Exposure is paramount. Ads are run continously on some sites/tvs/radios. Do what they do to get market share. Or exposure. Just my thoughts..

Common sense dictates that if any number of intelligent humans get together with the sole intention of improving any matter and all are fully informed of all the facts (as has been done in our sport with the Hall Report) none has a personal agenda, then any matter should be reasonably easy to find common ground on which to implement the best solutions under the prevailing circumstances.


Unfortunately, Hal, NO CHANCE.




Regards.

Thought it a good idea to bring this back, there appears little going on regarding the future of the sport and without some attention being put towards solving the problems there will not be one.


Looking through the members list there are a number of youngsters not in the getting past it league, it is their opinions that is wanted and what they feel would be in both the sports and their own interests.



If they sit back and do nothing that is what they will end up with.



So come on you young ones, something, anything, is better than nothing and no one will take the micky at any suggestions that you feel may help.




Regards.

MISTY wrote:

Thought it a good idea to bring this back, there appears little going on regarding the future of the sport and without some attention being put towards solving the problems there will not be one.


Looking through the members list there are a number of youngsters not in the getting past it league, it is their opinions that is wanted and what they feel would be in both the sports and their own interests.



If they sit back  and do nothing that is what they will end up with.  



So come on you young ones, something, anything, is better than nothing and no one will take the micky at any suggestions that you feel may help.




Regards.

Ok But First thing on average thou I suggest maybe Misty, is the attitude of many at the top having an attitude type perspective of what's your is mine as such on the money factor issue . Fact of the sport is I suggest the cream/money finishes up with the top 10% & basically the rest get nothing back, sadly. Try convincing those/some wielding the power, that we have some major issues confronting our sport on average is one mighty task I suggest as they live in a bubble type atmosphere, compared to the Mr average/battler types who are just hanging on by their finger nails because of the love they have for their birds & getting drowned in the cost factor involved at times these days. Relegation type scenario maybe, like the mighty Sunderland etc may/could work to a degree I suggest. But first you would have to convince, those with their fingers up their a**e & the power & living in a fairy land type scenario & also the I'm all right jack attitude     that change is required & the change requires an urgent factor attached to it so to speak these days .

Sometimes I am mystified Pigeon sport in many countries is on the uprise. No doom and gloom! Numbers of fanciers may decline but birds sent to races are increasing. Asia being the biggest pusher of racing pigeons. Few folks on here are trying to stimulate the younger generation. Or whatever. Why? If introduced to pigeons they adapt to them or not. All facts laid out, their choice. One young fellow decides to race. Here club members say nothing. Bigger clubs the birds are scoffed at. Their choice only wether or not to race or just keep homers. In or out. Brexit. People voted so what is the big deal? Just leave!

If it were only that simple Hal.

The biggest problem we have is that those elected to represent the people forget what their responsibilities are and take up a personal stance to suit what THEY think.

In a truly democratic country the matter would be already settled .


You only have to look at those causing all the trouble, pompous hypocritical nonentities as far as representing those who elected them.


One silly MP whose constituents were one of the most in favor of leaving says she would never vote to leave, and there are a lot just like her, I think women of a certain age should be barred from any position involving politics, say from 2 years old to 100 years old, things may then pick up.

My opinion.

Regards.

spot on misty, these treasonous mp`s are totally going against the will of the people......the majority voted leave, not make a deal or give away our rights or money, simply leave.

now these mps are trying to halt brexit, those who are need sacking.

MISTY wrote:

If it were only that simple Hal.

The biggest problem we have is that those elected to represent the people forget what their responsibilities are and take up a personal stance to suit what THEY think.

In a truly democratic country the matter would be already settled .


You only have to look at those causing all the trouble, pompous hypocritical nonentities as far as representing those who elected them.


One silly MP whose constituents  were one of the most in favor of leaving says she would never vote to leave, and there are a lot just like her, I think women of a certain age should be barred from any position involving politics, say from 2 years old to 100 years old, things may then pick up.

My opinion.

Regards.

anna soubry the snarling banshee who cries wolf when people answer back ,horrible despicable woman who gets eu dosh and has properties in Portugal ...over 400 mps voted remain 200 leave says it all really parliament is rotten to the core and none of the main parties seem able to govern its like a bunch of hooligans in parliament discussions these days all fighting to keep their pots of gold at the expense of our contry...if the people rise up I can see un-precedented civil unrest not seen since oliver Cromwell ,exaggeration ? I don't think so the people have woken up and are just waiting for march 29th or for mps to stop Brexit whether that's through the backdoor or not wont matter to the people ,its easy enough to identify the traitors to the people ...what a shower of freeloaders they are, most will be in the ground when our children and grandchildren will have to deal with the mess they leave behind ...self serving tossers ,look at mays husbands background and what he does for a living ,he is a senior executive at a $1.4 trillion investment fund that profits from tax avoidance companies like starbucks and amazon ,the info is out their if you care to delve and then the pieces start to make a picture of greed and wealth...don't get me started ffs

Just had a look at the RPRA AGM proposals, only one has any possible benefit to the fancy in general, that regarding individual voting.

But if you actually read 139B you might as well not have any rules the council do not want.

As it states the council can change any rule if they just let the regions know they are going to do so, it does not say the regions can stop them, so you might as well just let the council decide all the rules in the first place as things stand, any they do not like they can change.

Have pointed this out nearly every year.


Regards.

oldstrain wrote:

MISTY wrote:

If it were only that simple Hal.

The biggest problem we have is that those elected to represent the people forget what their responsibilities are and take up a personal stance to suit what THEY think.

In a truly democratic country the matter would be already settled .


You only have to look at those causing all the trouble, pompous hypocritical nonentities as far as representing those who elected them.


One silly MP whose constituents  were one of the most in favor of leaving says she would never vote to leave, and there are a lot just like her, I think women of a certain age should be barred from any position involving politics, say from 2 years old to 100 years old, things may then pick up.

My opinion.

Regards.

anna soubry the snarling banshee who cries wolf when people answer back ,horrible despicable woman who gets eu dosh and has properties in Portugal ...over 400 mps voted remain 200 leave says it all really parliament is rotten to the core and none of the main parties seem able to govern its like a bunch of hooligans in parliament discussions these days all fighting to keep their pots of gold at the expense of our contry...if the people rise up I can see un-precedented civil unrest not seen since oliver Cromwell ,exaggeration ? I don't think so the people have woken up and are just waiting for march 29th or for mps to stop Brexit whether that's through the backdoor or not wont matter to the people ,its easy enough to identify the traitors to the people ...what a shower of freeloaders they are, most will be in the ground when our children and grandchildren will have to deal with the mess they leave behind ...self serving tossers ,look at mays husbands background and what he does for a living ,he is a senior executive at a $1.4 trillion investment fund that profits from tax avoidance companies like starbucks and amazon ,the info is out their if you care to delve and then the pieces start to make a picture of greed and wealth...don't get me started ffs

Is that a wee bit of agro being shown etc by the clan here O/S . Could maybe I'm  be another Eureka type rebellion (local peasant moment in history thing here) heading Bristol way, maybe . Now I'm I've just had another thought bubble thing about Trump & his wall with the shut down of the services there of a local nature etc. Wall cost factor around 6 billion shut down factor there for 30 odd days, 30 odd billion, maybe Heading into a crazy type world I suggest Brexit, Trump Putin & always waiting in the wings just waiting to pounce, the Chinese bombardment scenario, maybe.

Agree about the Chinese, Knackered, they let others do all the work and start where the others have left off.

Can just imagine them sitting down and working out the different scenarios regarding how we. America, Russia and the Eu etc; settle our differences, and they will have no idiots dictating to their actions regarding their responses.

Regards.

MISTY wrote:

Agree about the Chinese, Knackered, they let others do all the work and start where the others have left off.

Can just imagine them sitting down and working out the different scenarios regarding how we. America, Russia and the Eu etc; settle our differences, and they will have no idiots dictating to their actions regarding their responses.

Regards.


   

The big bad wolf etc in waiting, is my line of thinking with the Chinese Misty on average. Happy to sit back in the bleaches/back stalls      watch everyone devour themselves sadly, & then come in for the final kill I'm type of thing .

Just been considering the China thing, Knackered.

We the brainy ones put a landing on the bright side of the moon, the Chinese went one better and put one on the dark side, much harder.


Have heard the peasants in China are saving their allowances to invest in property in or country when the present idiots have ruined it.

Regards.

MISTY wrote:

Just been considering the China thing, Knackered.

We the brainy ones put a landing on the bright side of the moon, the Chinese went one better and put one on the dark side, much harder.


Have heard the peasants in China are saving their allowances to invest in property in or country when the present idiots have ruined it.

Regards.
 

Been through that property thing here with the Chinese factor Misty. Got that bad sadly, with them buying up ever 4th house on the market the Government changed the housing rules to stop them buying every thing under the sun as such. For years the local yocal brigade told them we have a mayor issue/problem on hand with what was going on. No you don't we were told by those in power But, after years of letting the bull run rampant, they finally decided to shut the gate & then preceded to tell us how smart they were by doing it . Now for me the rot set in years ago when the bean counter types in power sold off our harbour in Darwin to the Chinese factor. Gate way to the country here & they sell it all to the Chinese with a lease of 100 odd years. Smart folk in power here in the climate we live in today I could suggest .

Put this on another post but gone.

Or words to that effect.

My sole concern over the past 45, 50 years has been the future,or lack of, our sport.


It is well documented numerous times in the sports press my concerns and possible means of illiminating some of them.

As far as I can determine the manner in which many portray our sport warrents a bottomless pocket and 25 hours in a day, using numerous aids and constant care clinical conditions being a must, enough to put anyone off the sport.


What I have attempted to point out, none of the above is nesessary to both enjoy the sport, give the pigeons as near to nature a life they enjoy, and have as much success as anyone else.


Just look at the two publications relating to our sport, one would think they were the most suseptible animal to desease, need at least 50 of the aids to success and a loft looking like Buckingham Palace along with pigeons costing at least a couple of thousand pounds.


What we should be doing is offering to start up anyone who shows an interest and advertise the fact in other publications than those relating just to the sport, every other sport does so.


No good keeping everything within the sport.

Just consider exactly what you have done and what you could have done and what you could do now before it is too late and I do not mean helping existing fanciers with a few young ones etc;
I mean something original that wpuld make the sport more appealing to a potential fancier.

Regards.

Just add, anyone can seek popularity, all you have to do is be all things to all people and not have a mind of your own, I tell things as I see them, right , wrong or indifferent.


Regards.

oh to be so righteous

No just honest and seeking the future of the sport.

Sarcasm lowest form of whit.

Regards.

Which would be deceitful otherwise, The fact that you have to confirm it suggests otherwise.


I could quote hundreds of different people from all walks of life who would confirm my honesty and abilty to amuse and put down those with your attitude so please do not tempt me.



Regards.

The above post was in reply to another sarcastic response, which has now vanished.


Regards.