Rpra One Loft 2020 Updates .

halcanada81 wrote:

Whites there. Good to see.

Agree put a request in there etc thou Hal that all whites & coloured types       just go out first to feed the hawks as such     when in training mode. That being said, certainly some lovely looking pigeons there to take up the challenge facing them shortly I suggest. Final note no names but reminded me here some how of a certain Geordie's type loft we all love  . & take care

LOFT LIST UPDATE
June 29th, 2020
Good Afternoon

I have updated the current loft list.

We kept the birds in over the weekend due to racing going on and the gale force winds.

We will continue with there education each day this week when weather permits.

I will update this Wednesday evening with the latest.

Jeremy..

latest loft list, looks like we have 2 birds still in it .........


Peter Reeves — GB20 R09141 United Kingdom
Phelfort — GB20 D04078 United Kingdom
Pheonix Knights — WHU2020 B10908 Wales
Pheonix Knights — WHU2020 B10903 Wales
Pigeon Widows — WHU2020 B10605 Wales
Pigeon Widows — WHU2020 B10602 Wales
Pigeon World Forum — GB20 D06793 United Kingdom
Pigeon World Forum — GB20 D06795 United Kingdom
Pip Tom Beth & Grumpy — GB20 X21263 United Kingdom
Pip Tom Beth & Grumpy — GB20 X21271 United Kingdom
Pip Tom Beth & Grumpy

ffs another gone that was 92 a full sibling to my best ybs last 2 seasons one yb won a 190 mile race last yr another sibling bred a winner on the south road,really dissapointing ....would love to know what happened to them ...1 of 3 things ,health,raptors,lost off the loft can only say they stick well here and healthy type birds to

Oldstrain, No one knows what happens to many of our feathered friends in normal circumstances, when you have the OL situation there are far more chances of one becoming victim to circumstances that have nothing whatsoever to do with the quality of the pigeon.

If you enter then you do so knowing the chances something going wrong that no one has any control over is a possibility and it is no good anyone beating one selves up because of losses they are inevitable and none selective.

Your pigeons have done the syndicate proud in the past and having two in the hunt at this stage is not bad, some, the majority, may have none left in.

Still think they basket and train far too many times, every time is a threat.

Lets just look forward to having at least one in the final and if not then we will be in the same boat as the majority, and in some cases those who only enter a OLR.

Regards.

thanks misty but just want the best for the lads ya know ,is what it is ....but thanks for yer thoughts on it....they were tossed from 4 miles apparently cant see what good thats doing tossing 1200 birds from there

Bad news Darren seeing another on gone must be frustrating not knowing what happened to them just hope they work back in in time for the main event

oldstrain wrote:

thanks misty but just want the best for the lads ya know ,is what it is ....but thanks for yer thoughts on it....they were tossed from 4 miles apparently cant see what good thats doing tossing 1200 birds from there

i fully agree darren, taking 1200 birds 4 miles is ridiculous , its surprising such experienced fanciers would do that ...........

try not to be too disheartened darren, members know you did your best for them, you have no control over them once they are at the one loft, you played your part in breeding them and getting them there..........these things happen .

Only one winner. Unless observed who knows what happens to them? They all take the same chances. All on the same system. No point blaming the system or any aspect of it. It is what it is and folks know before they send. Just my thoughts anyway.

Agree Hal, but it would be interesting to know how many are culled because of disease, how many are reported to the RPRA and just what treatment is given ad lib.

The latter can only help the ill and possibly be detrimental to the healthy, think more information could be forth coming.

Regards.

Its a hard task to manage 1200 birds and make the right call and when birds go missing its disappointing and would be nice to no if they have been called because of illnesse or just lost

David wrote:

oldstrain wrote:

thanks misty but just want the best for the lads ya know ,is what it is ....but thanks for yer thoughts on it....they were tossed from 4 miles apparently cant see what good thats doing tossing 1200 birds from there

i fully agree darren, taking 1200 birds 4 miles is ridiculous , its surprising such experienced fanciers would do that ...........

try not to be too disheartened darren, members know you did your best for them, you have no control over them once they are at the one loft, you played your part in breeding them and getting them there..........these things happen .

thanks david...amazes me 1200 birds from 4 miles ,if weathers not right then wait for another day eh...theres no pressure up there to toss like

if birds are ready to train, they must be ranging away from the loft more than 4 mile surely ...........my birds wouldnt fly very well a few years ago, so i took them a few hundred yards up the road, took them days to come home .........

thing is david the one loft is located out in the country only villages about not like its a built up area and being tossed just outside that area...i get the basket training aspect but not the short toss scenario,surely they look at next days weather before loading transporter

David wrote:

if birds are ready to train, they must be ranging away from the loft more than 4 mile surely ...........my birds wouldnt fly very well a few years ago, so i took them a few hundred yards up the road, took them days to come home .........

Answer to that one etc David, maybe if they were why did they first toss them all first off in the paddock next door there as shown & then give them, a bone crusher type toss     from 4 odd miles . All that being said thou typical of what goes on with many of these type races unfortunately I'm . Example just so happens the man that decides for my old Fed when to go or not go on race day is into the one loft scenario now to make a buck as such. First race today & many old time flyers are turning in their graves I suspect here in despair, as they would have had a lovely fly today from around a 100 odd miles into a slight head wind, the odd shower or two & maybe wee bit on the nippy side for the enjoyment factor & he in his wisdom ??????????? decides it's an absolute  No No type of thing because the birds could have just got wet, maybe & then catch a cold    . Now     being as friendly as I'm at this moment in time here     the grapevine told me just recently (Thursday)       he already has lost a 100 odd birds in training so far & similar to what he regularly has also lost in the past     before racing starts here.

ive heard rumor ray peel has more ybs than the rpra one loft has got left ..........

David wrote:

ive heard rumor ray peel has more ybs than the rpra one loft has got left ..........  

Stop no more rumours here etc David from the rumour file. Please as I may just have to tell another rumour/tale about my favourite man down here that I heard today sadly     which blew me away in disbelieve if true . & take care.

come on oz lets be having the info please theres a good

[quote="David"]ive heard rumor ray peel has more ybs than the rpra one loft has got left ..........  [/quote



Yes that is correct I have been to see them

The skies go black when they are all out

WEDNESDAY
July 1st, 2020
Good Evening

Well the weather has been against us this week but we did manage to train them today and liberated in 6 batches but only from the 4 mile point as the weather was very unpredictable and some of the batches were making hard work of it.

Tomorrow morning the forecast seems ok so will train again all being well.

Friday not looking so good but we will see.

Will update on Saturday morning with the latest.

Jeremy..

FRIDAY
July 3rd, 2020
Good Evening

We managed to get a trainer into them on Thursday from the 5 mile point again released in batches they done ok but will need to come better.

Today because of the weather they were loft flown.

Will look at Training again either Sunday or Monday depending on domestic racing and the weather.

Will update Monday evening with the latest.

Jeremy..

Cannot get my head round this 5 mile business , just exactly what is it supposed to do, other than give the raptors a free meal??????.

Not doing too good, wonder why ?????.

Would be better just letting them have open loft, less likely to lose to raptors and fly far more than five miles and be far fitter than spending most of the time in the loft.

I could of course be wrong but just cannot understand it myself.


Regards.

dont want to be doom and gloom, but im inclined to agree misty, 4 and 5 mile is just giving the predators a meal .......i know the weather is bad, but exercise around the loft would be better .

there not coming well because they have nowhere to come from probably messing about no incentive to move on because its like a loft exercise to them

well Owen, a very good fancier, used to go 10 miles tops up a valley early in mornings .. to be home before Percy was about. Seldom got hit.

In the 50's, those that could afford, or such would go 10 miles each day. Had very good returns.
likewise those that never went anywhere. Just sent first of when loft fit.

I think, regardless of distance - for whatever some felt the birds needed it - the first must surely is to get them 'Mentally fit. then of course, physically fit. One can't be 100% unless the other is also. That's why keeping birds 90 - 95% fit and bring on the last bit for the races that they have planned for.

5! miles! 10!! 30!!! miles! Gosh the birds do more than that circling around the loft!