Ambition in sport

a big conflict in interests ...which one gets the gravy one asks ones self eh ,is the corn coming from the same place is management the same , etc...etc... i mean wtf is going on here same old rpra telling fanciers what they will get as opposed to transparency before the event

is the other one loft the yearling one loft ...?


the loft manager flies as himself in a club doesnt he, it might be just he is racing as him self in club races .......?

if it is that he is running his own one loft as well as the rpra one loft, he would have had to get a license from the rpra to run his own, so they would have had to approve him doing it.

he is in partnership in running 2 olr they are using the yearling loft

if thats the case it shouldnt be allowed, and should have been made public ......

he is self employed David so seems there is nothing they can do about it

there is george, anyone who wants to run a one loft race has to have a license and permission off the rpra, so they must have granted it .

i was in one in Somerset he was not in the rpra so they did not hold the prize money and birds were not transferred  turned out a con man

George & Morgan wrote:

i was in one in Somerset he was not in the rpra so they did not hold the prize money and birds were not transferred  turned out a con man

Do not think the RPRA can stop anyone holding a OL Race.

Would have to have a Rule that says transfers will only be made to OL holders if they comply with RPRA Rules.

A present problem being, what happens if there is no racing ?.

OH FOR THE OLD DAYS AND ORANGE BOX LOFTS.

Regards.

fanciers should have been told there is 2 one loft events being held by the same loft manager at the same location so they could decide for themselves if they wanted to enter under those circumstances remember this is the one loft that took out a hotspot 2 years ago but had well in excess of 30 tosses and some hotspots were held late and last year turned the whole event from north road to south road without asking the view of the entrants ,i am so glad we never entered as this lot are a law unto themselves the rpra will never get another penny from me and glad i am out of the game if i am honest ,should i ever decide to get back into pigeons i would join the nehu

i have ask for a refund Darren

MISTY wrote:

George & Morgan wrote:

i was in one in Somerset he was not in the rpra so they did not hold the prize money and birds were not transferred  turned out a con man

Do not think the RPRA can stop anyone holding a OL Race.

Would have to have a Rule that says transfers will only be made to OL holders if they comply with RPRA Rules.

A present problem being, what happens if there is no racing ?.

OH FOR THE OLD DAYS AND ORANGE BOX LOFTS.

Regards.

we had this a few years ago misty, if a fancier is running a "one loft" and charging an entry fee to pay prize money it had to be registered as such with the rpra, otherwise there can be no entry fee/ prize money and it has to be called a "test loft" .

Do not think it would stand up in a test case.

The RPRA do not own the OL title it was used long before they became involved.

Anyone could have a OL race under their own rules.

In my opinion the idea of a OL race is sound, the implications regarding all having an equal chance impossible.

You know what is involved if there is no underhand antics so you either participate or not.


Regards.

i was in a few one MNFC this was the biggest crook in pigeons only if your bird come from the final did you get your money back 

next Somerset olr another conman

this could spell the end to the rpra olr

have had no reply from BHW asking to what they knew no reply from rpra asking for a refund this is not 2 small lofts one to have over 1000 birds they will be every were only 50yds apart

George & Morgan wrote:

have had no reply from BHW asking to what they knew no reply from rpra asking for a refund this is not 2 small lofts one to have over 1000 birds they will be every were only 50yds apart

Wouldn't hold my breath there waiting for a reply etc George Ships sinking fast I'm Not quite apples with apples but could/would be interesting I suggest to maybe compare your RPRA structure & accounts to something like your local Up North Combine there, in how they go about their daily business & management practices for their general members.

have been ask to ring someone this morning hope i 've not upset them but a video was put up on facebook last November i didn't see it but it then should have been in BHW if it was changes to the olr

George & Morgan wrote:

have been ask to ring someone this morning hope i 've not upset them but a video was put up on facebook last November i didn't see it but it then should have been in BHW if it was changes to the olr

Not everyone looks on Facebook, should have been included in the terms of the OL
Race.

Cannot see how it can work without a conflict of interests.

Too many different possible scenarios.

Regards.

one for me misty is if a rpra bird goes into the yearling loft and refuses to return is it disposed off

George & Morgan wrote:

one for me misty is if a rpra bird goes into the yearling loft and refuses to return is it disposed off

Dread to think of all the possibilities George.

Conflict of interests.

Quik reduction in numbers helps corn bill and all other matters.

The RPRA OL is not regulated as I feel it should be by un-announced visits to ensure no hanky panky, etc;

Far, far too many unexplained losses year on year.

Regards.

George & Morgan wrote:

one for me misty is if a rpra bird goes into the yearling loft and refuses to return is it disposed off

Dread to think of all the possibilities George.

Conflict of interests.

Quik reduction in numbers helps corn bill and all other matters.

The RPRA OL is not regulated as I feel it should be by un-announced visits to ensure no hanky panky, etc;

Far, far too many unexplained losses year on year.

Regards.

Jeremy has ask me to ring him this morning for answers

George & Morgan wrote:

Jeremy has ask me to ring him this morning for answers

Look forward to explanation.

One question I would ask is, what is the point in having a seperate event from the same site when there is one that is not fully booked ?.


Regards.

i have ask the editor of BHW why it was not in it when on FB

tried ringing no answer

under handed goings on there by the looks of it george, definitely a conflict of interests.