Pigeon World Forum Syndicate Bird takes 44th Place, in the 2019 RPRA One Loft Final.The Bird is Frans Zwol Bloodline, Bred and supplied by Darren Palmer (Oldstrain)
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Pigeon World Forum Syndicate also takes 100th Place, in the 2019 RPRA One Loft Final. The Bird is Frans Zwol Bloodline, Bred and supplied by Darren Palmer (Oldstrain)
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Oldstrain/Darren`s Winner of winners. 2012.
From Fed Topper to Master Chef
The N.E.H.U race from Melton Mowbray 21/4/2012 was won by Peel bros of South Shields, they took 1st club 1st fed, also taking 2nd and 4th club and 15 of the 25 birds clocked in the club......well done Peel brothers.
Posts : 8466 Join date : 2011-02-14 Age : 79 Location : west Oxfordshire
Subject: Re: Ambition in sport Tue Feb 07, 2023 12:36 pm
some one wrote on FB why would anyone think birds would go into the other loft
oldstrain Oldbird
Posts : 16397 Join date : 2011-01-03 Location : the magic roundabout
Subject: Re: Ambition in sport Tue Feb 07, 2023 1:24 pm
that someone on facebook is not using there brain cell george
MISTY Oldbird
Posts : 9024 Join date : 2018-01-28 Age : 89 Location : SCARBOROUGH
Subject: Re: Ambition in sport Tue Feb 07, 2023 3:07 pm
George & Morgan wrote:
tried ringing no answer
Have you any information George on the possible entries and rules regarding the other loft and entries etc;
It is not only the possibility of pigeons going into others lofts but the principles.
Also would the same transporters be used etc;
Just exactly who is involved in the other event, manager etc
Cost of entries and rules ??????.
Regards.
MISTY Oldbird
Posts : 9024 Join date : 2018-01-28 Age : 89 Location : SCARBOROUGH
Subject: Re: Ambition in sport Tue Feb 07, 2023 3:07 pm
George & Morgan wrote:
tried ringing no answer
Have you any information George on the possible entries and rules regarding the other loft and entries etc;
It is not only the possibility of pigeons going into others lofts but the principles.
Also would the same transporters be used etc;
Just exactly who is involved in the other event, manager etc
Cost of entries and rules ??????.
Regards.
George & Morgan Oldbird
Posts : 8466 Join date : 2011-02-14 Age : 79 Location : west Oxfordshire
Subject: Re: Ambition in sport Tue Feb 07, 2023 3:21 pm
nothing who it is how many birds what time each loft will let there birds out just nothing
George & Morgan Oldbird
Posts : 8466 Join date : 2011-02-14 Age : 79 Location : west Oxfordshire
Subject: Re: Ambition in sport Tue Feb 07, 2023 4:10 pm
just read on another site the 2nd olr is his own
MISTY Oldbird
Posts : 9024 Join date : 2018-01-28 Age : 89 Location : SCARBOROUGH
Subject: Re: Ambition in sport Tue Feb 07, 2023 5:24 pm
George & Morgan wrote:
just read on another site the 2nd olr is his own
Do you mean the present OL Manager George ?
If it is so I cannot see it working, would same transporter be used for training etc;
Feed and treatments etc kept seperate, petrol for training if same transporter used.
Whose baskets would be used for training etc
Far too many imponderables and possibilities even if one could be certain ( and there is no reason to believe differently) everything would be above board.
BAD IDEA.
Regards.
George & Morgan Oldbird
Posts : 8466 Join date : 2011-02-14 Age : 79 Location : west Oxfordshire
Subject: Re: Ambition in sport Tue Feb 07, 2023 5:28 pm
correct misty it all is Jeremy's own he can do what he likes could be the end of rpra olr just read Jeremy would not be running the rpra olr taken from a region minutes
MISTY Oldbird
Posts : 9024 Join date : 2018-01-28 Age : 89 Location : SCARBOROUGH
Subject: Re: Ambition in sport Tue Feb 07, 2023 8:31 pm
George & Morgan wrote:
correct misty it all is Jeremy's own he can do what he likes could be the end of rpra olr just read Jeremy would not be running the rpra olr taken from a region minutes
May be interesting to know just what the arrangements were with Jeremy regarding the OL races he managed.
Gets more interesting as matters arise.
What happens to the money etc; already paid by fanciers.
Surely a written agreement was made to safeguard the fancier's interests.
Mind boggles.
Regards.
George & Morgan Oldbird
Posts : 8466 Join date : 2011-02-14 Age : 79 Location : west Oxfordshire
Subject: Re: Ambition in sport Tue Feb 07, 2023 8:37 pm
pm sent misty
David Oldbird
Posts : 43692 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
Subject: Re: Ambition in sport Tue Feb 07, 2023 9:04 pm
so how was this other one loft advertised .....?
who knew about it and how did they know about it ...?
George & Morgan Oldbird
Posts : 8466 Join date : 2011-02-14 Age : 79 Location : west Oxfordshire
Subject: Re: Ambition in sport Tue Feb 07, 2023 9:06 pm
pm sent
MISTY Oldbird
Posts : 9024 Join date : 2018-01-28 Age : 89 Location : SCARBOROUGH
Subject: Re: Ambition in sport Tue Feb 07, 2023 9:55 pm
Battery low.
George & Morgan Oldbird
Posts : 8466 Join date : 2011-02-14 Age : 79 Location : west Oxfordshire
Subject: Re: Ambition in sport Wed Feb 08, 2023 9:31 am
from what i'm reading Jeremy is no longer manager of rpra olr if that is the case rpra should make a statement if true and why also if he is running his own olr from the yearling loft what are the arrangements between the 2 lofts
David Oldbird
Posts : 43692 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
Subject: Re: Ambition in sport Wed Feb 08, 2023 9:36 am
as far as i know the yearling loft was his own loft ......so this must mean the rpra arnt having a yearling one loft this year .
George & Morgan Oldbird
Posts : 8466 Join date : 2011-02-14 Age : 79 Location : west Oxfordshire
Subject: Re: Ambition in sport Wed Feb 08, 2023 9:38 am
think i may have read that David
David Oldbird
Posts : 43692 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
Subject: Re: Ambition in sport Wed Feb 08, 2023 9:41 am
this is the latest video put out , havnt watched it all so dont know if theres any info on whats going on ...
George & Morgan Oldbird
Posts : 8466 Join date : 2011-02-14 Age : 79 Location : west Oxfordshire
Subject: Re: Ambition in sport Wed Feb 08, 2023 9:47 am
can't hear anything
David Oldbird
Posts : 43692 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
Subject: Re: Ambition in sport Wed Feb 08, 2023 10:25 am
yes its very low george, head phones would be better .....
MISTY Oldbird
Posts : 9024 Join date : 2018-01-28 Age : 89 Location : SCARBOROUGH
Subject: Re: Ambition in sport Wed Feb 08, 2023 10:26 am
Appears too many questions needed to sort this mess out.
Thousands of pounds involved, never seen a balance sheet for the OL, ?.
Would be interesting to see the whole list of expenses.
Feed, Vet fees, petrol,medication, salaries, return of lost pigeons etc; etc; etc;
Maybe be able to write a book.
There must be a reason for the split and members are entitled to know the facts.
Regards.
MISTY Oldbird
Posts : 9024 Join date : 2018-01-28 Age : 89 Location : SCARBOROUGH
Subject: Re: Ambition in sport Wed Feb 08, 2023 10:33 am
David wrote:
this is the latest video put out , havnt watched it all so dont know if theres any info on whats going on ...
To me sounds like he is talking in a foreign language.
Not a very good advert.
Regards.
oldstrain Oldbird
Posts : 16397 Join date : 2011-01-03 Location : the magic roundabout
Subject: Re: Ambition in sport Wed Feb 08, 2023 10:43 am
separate loft,separate training wagon,separate loft manager according to the video and loft improvements to accommodate 650 birds ,nothing to do with rpra at all it would seem other than loft being at the same location ,if its an improvement then it has to be commended as the birds come first ,if its a success then the rpra one loft had better watch out ,i am all for it if its an improvement ...the rpra could have spent the dosh on improving there lofts thus giving the loft manager a fighting chance to keeps the birds healthier as that must be the main issue at any one loft eh,one can only imagine the state of some of the arrivals internally eh and from lofts that are heavy users of medication ...the rpra would do well to put a nice big aviary across the front of there lofts good luck to the premier one loft i hope it goes well i really do it seems someone is trying and throwing dosh at it so i say well done to them
George & Morgan Oldbird
Posts : 8466 Join date : 2011-02-14 Age : 79 Location : west Oxfordshire
Subject: Re: Ambition in sport Wed Feb 08, 2023 10:51 am
is it possible to email this to me
MISTY Oldbird
Posts : 9024 Join date : 2018-01-28 Age : 89 Location : SCARBOROUGH
Subject: Re: Ambition in sport Wed Feb 08, 2023 11:10 am
650 pigeons, first prize £40,000, making prize money, if stage prizes and others must be around £ 70,000 at least.
Costs of upkeep of loft and pigeons ???.
Training, loft manager, possible aid to loft manager.
Good luck, will need it.
But think something stinks.
Regards.
David Oldbird
Posts : 43692 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
Subject: Re: Ambition in sport Wed Feb 08, 2023 11:30 am
i dont see how this new one loft will be any better than the rpra one loft, its the same man managing it , with the same methods and everything else......
thing that puzzles me is where was this new one loft advertised, and did those entering know what they were entering into ...?
and did those entering the rpra one loft know of the changes ...?
a lot of unanswered questions , and probably a lot who have entered do not know of the changes .