hows everyones young bird training going

Train them hungry. No matter if your birds are pairing up. more motivation. Took 20 today any thing with 3 flights gone. 10 stayed back. Younger ones.Good weather. Cool for this time of year, 75 F. Headwind about 10 miles per hour. Got to the 12 mile station, first toss usually and said hell with it. Weather is good enough so took them to 25 miles. 50 minutes for the first 12, on line. Others came slower. Different directions. 1 hour 10 all back. Some did not trap but circled the loft for 20 minutes. Another 25 miles tomorrow then a day off. basically open loft, open country. Daily old and young fly out together. May not work for every one but works for me. So far.

joe wheelo wrote:

Hello lads enjoying the post, I've been going hard at it on the training and I'm having same problem David there doing very little loft exercise! But training well, I'm been told I'm feeding to much I feed an ounce a day and I'm finding there still very hungry, personally I'd like to let them eat and when finished take food away, I find my Birds fly better this way, can anyone put me right? How's it going Edgie just wondering do you think if you stop Training after first race you can keep up with the pack with loft trading and motivation? I might try it seems my Birds are well schooled and Know what they have to do now. Can I ask has this method worked for anyone before? Sorry about all the questions just curious, you know the way it is everyone telling you different things but what your saying there makes sense to me. Cheers lads my Birds resting tomorrow, loft trading Saturday morning then basketing Saturday night for Sunday race.

Having a curious mind     is a good thing Joe "keep it up" but by my understanding of your position when you fly in your club, you are pushing against a head wind (Strong) if you wish to compete week in week out type of thing there. Far better to concentrate on doing what's required so you have better returns on race day than normal. Because I would suggest, if you wish to fly well in the short races you will tend to pay a heavy price down the track etc & all will be for nothing, sadly.  

don't think mine will be going today, its raining now and forecast thunder later today...........  

maybe over the weekend .....  

joe wheelo wrote:

Hello lads enjoying the post, I've been going hard at it on the training and I'm having same problem David there doing very little loft exercise! But training well, I'm been told I'm feeding to much I feed an ounce a day and I'm finding there still very hungry, personally I'd like to let them eat and when finished take food away, I find my Birds fly better this way, can anyone put me right? How's it going Edgie just wondering do you think if you stop Training after first race you can keep up with the pack with loft training and motivation? I might try it seems my Birds are well schooled and Know what they have to do now. Can I ask has this method worked for anyone before? Sorry about all the questions just curious, you know the way it is everyone telling you different things but what your saying there makes sense to me. Cheers lads my Birds resting tomorrow, loft training Saturday morning then basketing Saturday night for Sunday race.

yes joe by all means keep them hungry when you train, they will trap quicker on there return, to be fed, (but) give them what they want as they are growing still, if you use barley in the mix, then use that as your guide, when they turn there noses up at barley then give no more ?.

dont worry about keeping up with the leaders they will need to worry about keeping up with you, lock a horse in a stable , it will let you know when it wants to be out ?

don't take my word on it joe, but I think if your ybs are being trained hard they need more than 1 oz each per day.....

if I was training very hard I think the best way to feed ybs is to put plenty down and when maybe 1/3 go to the drinkers then remove the food....JMO

edgie wrote:

joe wheelo wrote:

Hello lads enjoying the post, I've been going hard at it on the training and I'm having same problem David there doing very little loft exercise! But training well, I'm been told I'm feeding to much I feed an ounce a day and I'm finding there still very hungry, personally I'd like to let them eat and when finished take food away, I find my Birds fly better this way, can anyone put me right? How's it going Edgie just wondering do you think if you stop Training after first race you can keep up with the pack with loft training and motivation? I might try it seems my Birds are well schooled and Know what they have to do now. Can I ask has this method worked for anyone before? Sorry about all the questions just curious, you know the way it is everyone telling you different things but what your saying there makes sense to me. Cheers lads my Birds resting tomorrow, loft training Saturday morning then basketing Saturday night for Sunday race.

yes joe by all means keep them hungry when you train, they will trap quicker on there return, to be fed, (but) give them what they want as they are growing still, if you use barley in the mix, then use that as your guide, when they turn there noses up at barley then give no more ?.

Spot on as always Edgie

edgie wrote:

dont worry about keeping up with the leaders they will need to worry about keeping up with you, lock a horse in a stable , it will let you know when it wants to be out ?

    That's a new one for me

David wrote:

don't take my word on it joe, but I think if your ybs are being trained hard they need more than 1 oz each per day.....

if I was training very hard I think the best way to feed ybs is to put plenty down and when maybe 1/3 go to the drinkers then remove the food....JMO

I would have to agree David but for me it would be the first 2 to leave the food and go for water the food is removed

I always feed my youngsters with an open truff and feed them by my hand so I could see what they were eating

I never feed them and walked away plus with me being in the loft the youngsters came more tame

That extra 10 mins spent with them worked wonders plus you save on feeding costs no waste

Don Webb wrote:

edgie wrote:

dont worry about keeping up with the leaders they will need to worry about keeping up with you, lock a horse in a stable , it will let you know when it wants to be out ?

    That's a new one for me

maybe new to you don but very true  

i,m starting sunday with my ybs ..they are going well now and i have two to get them ready

Took mine same spot as yesterday. 25 miles. Let them go at 8 am. 88F and very humid. No wind. Boy did I get worried! 2 hours before they came back! Few later stragglers. Hazy, no cloud. High up some smoke from the forest fires from the North West territories. Huge fires. Over a 1000 miles North. Oh well miss tomorrow and take them back again. Just when one thinks they are doing good training these burps occur. Why this is such a mind bending hobby at times.

im with don on this one weather you feed the birds to the drinker or not its what there eating and hand full by hand full will tell you more ie keep feeding what they want they wont move till there crops are full but feed with barley in and you will note they slow down most will look for the bits they want thats the time to stop feeding each to there own but barley has no equal as reguards feeding pigeons for good or bad

maybe I was being a bit rough in my calculations don, but when I had 30 ybs (got 27 now) I would wait while maybe 5 or 6 went to the drinker and then removed the corn......while these 5 or 6 went for the water some of the others were still eating as if hungry, and as we all know every pigeon is different so I think the best way is to always watch them eating and treat accordingly........JMO

no more letting birds out for exercise now it will be basket up the road lib home trap and fed, till 1st race, then back to free fly around home, let hem be happy  

not sure weather to take mine sunday, or wondering about if the channel races are on Monday ?    

need to get them off as much as possible in this last week.........    

I would train mon david them channel birds will be well thinned out by the time they get up near you ....my ybs are just starting to take flight but will only be racing the last 4 races two at 60 mile then isle of wight 90 and maybe carentan 150 if the weather looks good atb to all site members for the coming yb season

42 training tonight around 20 mile, all home before me bar 1 he turned up 20 min later, all ok  

our birds were brought back today convoyer made the right choice well done

42 training tonight 15 miles 15 min all home and fed, ready for tomorow.

1st yb race today lyndhurst lib 10.30 nw wind
in our club we had bad returns ive 7 from 8 but they have taken all day
to come i will probably be about 6th club and some nom money
so not bad , most of the members have half there teams missing
and they all train 2x aweek .

well done..i finally got my first training toss today..sent 70 and two missing..we did.nt go very far but we are on our way now

kev d wrote:

1st yb race today lyndhurst lib 10.30 nw wind
in our club we had bad returns ive 7 from 8 but they have taken all day
to come i will probably be about 6th club  and some nom money
so not bad , most of the members have half there teams missing
and they all train 2x aweek .

well done kev I hear returns at my club were not to good either...we have the combine,fed and north road at my club the fed and north start next week atb

kev d wrote:

1st yb race today lyndhurst lib 10.30 nw wind
in our club we had bad returns ive 7 from 8 but they have taken all day
to come i will probably be about 6th club  and some nom money
so not bad , most of the members have half there teams missing
and they all train 2x aweek .

Well done Kev it all helps with the feed bill mate

yes and we need as much help as possible